Tough Spot in FTP 40k
 

No read on villain. Whats your play?

Full Tilt Poker Game #2732288225: $40,000 Guarantee (19784619), Table 14 - 30/60 - No Limit Hold'em - 20:58:16 ET - 2007/06/21
Seat 1: icufish (6,000)
Seat 2: EkazSTHLM (5,055)
Seat 3: rdcrsn (8,325)
Seat 4: RANGER_173D (5,610)
Seat 5: PeyCor23 (4,950)
Seat 6: Cobrakid88 (4,230)
Seat 7: mandablais (4,315)
Seat 8: Hava Nagila (5,560)
Seat 9: CreekSideFish (2,570), is sitting out
Cobrakid88 posts the small blind of 30
mandablais posts the big blind of 60
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hava Nagila [Ts Th]
Hava Nagila raises to 180
CreekSideFish folds
icufish folds
EkazSTHLM calls 180
rdcrsn folds
RANGER_173D folds
PeyCor23 folds
Cobrakid88 folds
mandablais folds
*** FLOP *** [4s 5s 3s]
Hava Nagila bets 240
EkazSTHLM calls 240
*** TURN *** [4s 5s 3s] [5h]
Hava Nagila bets 540
EkazSTHLM calls 540
*** RIVER *** [4s 5s 3s 5h] [4d]
Hava Nagila checks
EkazSTHLM bets 2,010
Hava Nagila has 15 seconds left to act
Hava Nagila has requested TIME
Hava Nagila ????

Re: Tough Spot in FTP 40k
 

the way that hand is being played out, it really seems like you are committed with a tighter range of TT+, AK with a spade by the turn, and he is just flatcalling. I would be wary, just on account of the fact that his exact range of bluffs, weighted, is narrow (single high spade and very rarely turning red 88 into a bluff), and stack sizes are just about right for his range to include numerous boat/flush hands by the river (ie lolz i have 44 let him hang himself with KxKs I hope he hits a spade!!) that would not have jammed the turn for fear of folding out red jacks, etc.

so, i would thepokerdb the guy, and if he is down tens of thousands :P i might call out of spite, but I think 95+% of the time I am folding.

Re: Tough Spot in FTP 40k
 

meanwhile, i'm thinking what calls our UTG raise in that position, calls twice on a massively drawy board and then pots the double baby river?

the way this hand played out, I think you've got the best hand a significant percentage of the time. If you're behind, it's almost exclusively to the nut flush.

Re: Tough Spot in FTP 40k
 

Meh, people are idiots, so I call.

Re: Tough Spot in FTP 40k
 

I called, he showed 56o (wtf!?!?!), and won. My reason for calling was that you habe to figure a set, 2 pair, or flush was raising earlier in the hand. Even if he had a flush, why is he potting it on the river w/ 2 pair on baord (even if it is unlikely I have a 5 or 4, it's hard to believe u could get action from an overpair w/ 2 pr on board). I think his most likely holding here is usually a big spade that missed, but then again, I somehow didn't include the almight 56o in his range [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Re: Tough Spot in FTP 40k
 

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I called, he showed 56o (wtf!?!?!), and won. My reason for calling was that you habe to figure a set, 2 pair, or flush was raising earlier in the hand. Even if he had a flush, why is he potting it on the river w/ 2 pair on baord (even if it is unlikely I have a 5 or 4, it's hard to believe u could get action from an overpair w/ 2 pr on board). I think his most likely holding here is usually a big spade that missed, but then again, I somehow didn't include the almight 56o in his range [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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Faulty logic, DUCY?

Re: Tough Spot in FTP 40k
 

I'm the master of faulty logic. However, I said that was in the event he had a flush and not a full house, which is obv a cinche hand.