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Ikaika 06-21-2007 12:25 AM

25NL: QQ on paired flop vs. maniac
 
Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $85.50
<u>BB: $4.05</u>
<u>UTG: $37.25</u>
<u>Hero (MP): $45.30</u>
CO: $23.55
BTN: $29.60

Reads: <font color="blue">Villain is 66/30/6.5 over a 150 hand sample. He'd been playing pretty crazily the whole session and had stacked off with 33 on a J96 rainbow board. I felt so molested on the flop when he called/reraised. Is this a fold or a push vs this sort of maniac?</font>

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $1.25</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $4.00</font>, 3 folds, BB calls $3.75, UTG calls $2.75

Flop: ($12.10) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets all-in for $0.05</font>, UTG calls $0.05, <font color="red">Hero raises to $6.00</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to $14.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero ???</font>

vixticator 06-21-2007 12:27 AM

Re: 25NL: QQ on paired flop vs. maniac
 
Call. Call his turn shove too.

cprice2 06-21-2007 12:29 AM

Re: 25NL: QQ on paired flop vs. maniac
 
7 more to call into a 32 dollar pot. Sounds like an easy call against this maniac. Am I wrong here?

HighSteaks 06-21-2007 12:29 AM

Re: 25NL: QQ on paired flop vs. maniac
 
No way I could fold that [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

vixticator 06-21-2007 12:32 AM

Re: 25NL: QQ on paired flop vs. maniac
 
I should elaborate. When you shove he calls and shows a Jack way more than when you call and he shoves turn (100% going to happen). Use his aggression in your favor.

Ikaika 06-21-2007 12:35 AM

Re: 25NL: QQ on paired flop vs. maniac
 
What happens if turn is an A and he pushes?

cprice2 06-21-2007 12:37 AM

Re: 25NL: QQ on paired flop vs. maniac
 
I'd say call even if a K or A comes. That AF is through the roof

vixticator 06-21-2007 12:42 AM

Re: 25NL: QQ on paired flop vs. maniac
 
[ QUOTE ]
What happens if turn is an A and he pushes?

[/ QUOTE ]Call. He's pushing all turn cards, because your call is weak to him and he thinks you think he has a Jack -- he isn't really thinking on that level, just representing it because he can't help himself. Turn is superfluous.

cooker3 06-21-2007 01:08 AM

Re: 25NL: QQ on paired flop vs. maniac
 
[ QUOTE ]
Call. Call his turn shove too.

[/ QUOTE ]

I like this line.
this guy is crazy, you can't fold against him.

Vyse 06-21-2007 01:10 AM

Re: 25NL: QQ on paired flop vs. maniac
 
People love to bluff on paired boards. Let him do it. Call, and if he checks the turn, make a scared turn bet so he shoves.


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