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Jurollo 06-16-2007 05:36 AM

WSOP 2k hand, just itm w/44
 
Blinds are 1k/2k/300a

Folds to aggro asian girl in CO, she has approx same stack size as me at around 65k. She makes it 6k to go.

I look down to see 4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] on Button and decide to call, blinds fold.

Flop: 632 rainbow

She fires 7k, I call (Thoughts?)

I dont like reraising here since if she does have a big hand I committ a ton so I call, I also can't really fold after the call preflop

Turn: 7 (putting two diamonds out there)
She shoves 40k+, I disgustingly muck after committing 13k.

Standard?

Jurollo 06-16-2007 05:39 AM

Re: WSOP 2k hand, just itm w/44
 
I am tired and put BB instead of Bu

timex 06-16-2007 05:43 AM

Re: WSOP 2k hand, just itm w/44
 
3 betting here preflop sucks, and this board sucks for making moves, pretty sure this is a pretty easy fold

Cornell Fiji 06-16-2007 05:46 AM

Re: WSOP 2k hand, just itm w/44
 
what was her perception of you?

IWEARGOGGLES 06-16-2007 05:49 AM

Re: WSOP 2k hand, just itm w/44
 
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what was her perception of you?

[/ QUOTE ]

*in the voice of deeb*

THAT HE IS AN EMO GOTH CAPABLE OF LAYING DOWN A GUTSHOT.

IWEARGOGGLES 06-16-2007 05:54 AM

Re: WSOP 2k hand, just itm w/44
 
juROLLO 83: hey i am posting a hand right now
juROLLO 83: you take a look when i do?
TheSpiritOf412: yep
juROLLO 83: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...c=#Post10807810
TheSpiritOf412: looks fine actually
TheSpiritOf412: reraising pre is awful
juROLLO 83: yea
juROLLO 83: obv
TheSpiritOf412: leading flop is awful
juROLLO 83: i cant lead
juROLLO 83: i am in pos
juROLLO 83: but i mean she slows on most turns i figure
TheSpiritOf412: says you are BB
juROLLO 83: oops
juROLLO 83: thats supposed to be bu
TheSpiritOf412: ack, man
TheSpiritOf412: this is weirder than it looks
juROLLO 83: how so?
juROLLO 83: her jam?
TheSpiritOf412: did you have any sort of tell?
juROLLO 83: nah
juROLLO 83: she was some smoking hot super aggro chink
TheSpiritOf412: how had she been playing?
TheSpiritOf412: what was she wearing?
TheSpiritOf412: how old was she?
juROLLO 83: raising and reraising a lot
TheSpiritOf412: how did she shove her chips in?
juROLLO 83: and some tight pants
TheSpiritOf412: did she actually say "i'm all in"?
juROLLO 83: she didnt, she just said allin
TheSpiritOf412: she shoved like 45k into 32k or so?
juROLLO 83: yea
juROLLO 83: on a 2 diamond
TheSpiritOf412: fuggggggggggg
juROLLO 83: 7632 board
TheSpiritOf412: her bet size on the flop is so weak
juROLLO 83: yea
juROLLO 83: she said she had JJ
TheSpiritOf412: she isn't an internet player is she?/
juROLLO 83: nah i dont think so
juROLLO 83: i dont know, i am not ahead enough there to call
TheSpiritOf412: she didn't wave her fingers or anything when she went all in?

Auto response from juROLLO 83: Cashed in the 2k, day 2 tomorrow

TheSpiritOf412: D00D LIVE TELLS
TheSpiritOf412: cashed in the 2k
TheSpiritOf412: like you're some sort of [censored] hero
TheSpiritOf412: THE WPTHERO
TheSpiritOf412: THE WSOPHERO
juROLLO 83: i am happy to cash
TheSpiritOf412: i am 0/111
juROLLO 83: i am [censored] 1/4 in WSOP events now... still havent seen AA yet though
juROLLO 83: in 31 table hours
TheSpiritOf412: that is like 24 hands though
juROLLO 83: lol
TheSpiritOf412: and i didn't mean what kind of clothes in terms of how hawt she was
TheSpiritOf412: but how expensive they were, etc.
TheSpiritOf412: this stuff matters!
TheSpiritOf412: and also
juROLLO 83: haha
juROLLO 83: they were nice expensive clothes
TheSpiritOf412: it is really easy to forget what other people might think of you
juROLLO 83: she didnt care about the money
TheSpiritOf412: like, people don't fold to me because i'm a weird young kid who wears shirts with zombies and people being impaled by chainsaws and stuff
juROLLO 83: althought when i 4-bet shoved on her on the absolute bubble she said she folded JJ
TheSpiritOf412: if she keeps saying that
TheSpiritOf412: she'll turn into JJ

Jurollo 06-16-2007 05:56 AM

Re: WSOP 2k hand, just itm w/44
 
[ QUOTE ]
3 betting here preflop sucks, and this board sucks for making moves, pretty sure this is a pretty easy fold

[/ QUOTE ]
I know its an easy turn fold, we like the call behind on the flop?

As for perception with 160 left I had like 50k and opened AK UTG and it folded to her and she made it 14k total and I 4-bet shoved AKo and she folded so she knows I am willing to get them in, although I had just told her prior to this hand I had AA. I am fairly new at the table, opening 2 pots and calling in pos another.

nath 06-16-2007 06:40 AM

Re: WSOP 2k hand, just itm w/44
 
With further analysis to come, Shoving PF doesn't suck as much as call/call/fold does

WarDekar 06-16-2007 06:58 AM

Re: WSOP 2k hand, just itm w/44
 
[ QUOTE ]
With further analysis to come, Shoving PF doesn't suck as much as call/call/fold does

[/ QUOTE ]

I concur

This is such a disgusting spot because I can see myself double barrelling here vs. someone I perceive to be weak, because, well, I'm going to take it so [censored] often and live players love to call, call, fold, etc.

So yeah, I really really hate call/call/fold here, granted you can't expect random players to double barrel here with overs/anything but given the villain description it seems like this could be the case, and I'd rather not to be stuck in this situation vs. such a player if you're going to take this line.

TheNewf 06-16-2007 06:59 AM

Re: WSOP 2k hand, just itm w/44
 
I don't see anything wrong with folding preflop. If this is the chick I think it is she was at the table next to me to start the day and I spent a lot of time looking at her. I saw her talking to Young Phan and some other TV pros throughout the day but I don't know who she is. I play it the same if I call preflop but I would usually just fold unless i had a good plan for what to do postflop.


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