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Hopscotch 06-15-2007 02:53 PM

Sometimes I bet - nut flush on paired board PL100
 
PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha High, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($499.55)
BB ($63.60)
Hero ($267.45)
MP ($88.45)
CO ($37.30)
Button ($196.30)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Hero calls $1, MP calls $1, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $5.5</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $4.50, Hero calls $4.50, MP calls $4.50.

Flop: ($22.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks, MP checks, Button checks.

Turn: ($22.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks, MP checks, Button checks.

River: ($22.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $21.4</font>

Crazy to value bet this? I would think someone would have bet their full house by now.

kutuz_off 06-15-2007 02:58 PM

Re: Sometimes I bet - nut flush on paired board PL100
 
It's crazy to bet this much. Bet half the pot, no more.

AbZurrrd 06-15-2007 04:57 PM

Re: Sometimes I bet - nut flush on paired board PL100
 
Anyone here re-raises PF? I know he's OOP, but trying to get HU in this spot would have been nice. AAxx double paired with a suit, he could have got a much bigger pot HU vs an opponent holding KKJT or something similar, + button wouldn't have necessarily slown down b/c of the pair, flush draw and 3 opponents on the flop. ?

Jinx 06-15-2007 05:05 PM

Re: Sometimes I bet - nut flush on paired board PL100
 
you wouldn't have to reraise if you open raised teh first time.

DonCologne 06-15-2007 05:06 PM

Re: Sometimes I bet - nut flush on paired board PL100
 
I raise this preflop, even from UTG and than I bet out at that flop.

After the limp I would not 3-bet here preflop, because this gives your opponents to much information about your hand.

slowhand5 06-15-2007 06:19 PM

Re: Sometimes I bet - nut flush on paired board PL100
 
yeah this is way to big of a bet in this spot. Unless you got a total idiot at the table or youve built of yourself an image that suggests your bluffing here no ones calling with a weak flush. Your right to think that no one has a full house but you got to think of what anyone will call with here.

sc000t 06-15-2007 06:29 PM

Re: Sometimes I bet - nut flush on paired board PL100
 
Wow

I raise preflop to open. I then reraise if I just limped like you did.

I also bet the flop
bet the turn
and valuebet the river

Bartholow 06-15-2007 08:13 PM

Re: Sometimes I bet - nut flush on paired board PL100
 
I'll ignore the earlier streets to focus on your question.

No, it's not crazy to value bet here and I'm even in favor of SOMETIMES betting the pot here. Especially if you have one of those guys at your table that likes to snap off bluffs, but even in general as a "mix it up" strategy.

RoundTower 06-16-2007 04:40 AM

Re: Sometimes I bet - nut flush on paired board PL100
 
I raise or reraise preflop, probably bet the turn, definitely bet the river.

T.Y.B. 06-16-2007 06:49 AM

Re: Sometimes I bet - nut flush on paired board PL100
 
I newer pot UTG with AAxx preflop...its to cheap for the others...I wait...and hoping someone would do it for me...for then re-pot.


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