Stud 8 open trips vs. John Juanda
 

This is a hand I actually watched LearnedfromTV play while sweating Nath the other night. We got into an argument about it in the car, and I'm pretty sure I'm right but not 100% positive. I'll crosspost a link to this in the stud forum for more discussion.

I didn't get to the table until fifth street and didn't see prior action, but it doesn't really matter. The important thing is that on fifth, LFTV has 333 up (and 22 in the hole) and obv bets into Juanda, who is showing 737 with 2 hearts. Juanda calls.

On sixth street, LFTV catches a five and JJ bricks. Bet call.

What is the correct action on the river?

Re: Stud 8 open trips vs. John Juanda
 

lol who the [censored] knows?

all 6 of you who know how to play stud 8 theory, raise your hands now plz

Re: Stud 8 open trips vs. John Juanda
 

Rook to bishop 5...?

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lol who the [censored] knows?

all 6 of you who know how to play stud 8 theory, raise your hands now plz

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oh hey, the standard witty comment from 0evg0, only this time, instead of being a first reply to some random noob's $11r post, it's in a thread about a $1500 buyin event against a top pro. well posted sir.

Re: Stud 8 open trips vs. John Juanda
 

mea culpa

and fine, i say bet.

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mea culpa

and fine, i say bet.

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are you calling a raise?

Re: Stud 8 open trips vs. John Juanda
 

absolutely

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absolutely

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0evg0, all--

Adanthar asked me this question over a game of pool. I almost immediately said that you need to check and probably fold to a bet.

What does Juanda have?

--Nate

Re: Stud 8 open trips vs. John Juanda
 

IMO,

bet/call > check/fold > check/call > bet/fold, i think.

This is confusing, and I think I misread LFTV's hand the first time around. And I haven't played a hand of Stud 8 in roughly a year.

I have no idea how to put him on a range so specific that I can even begin to answer what I think he has. He's going to be raising with like a ton of Lows because like the only time LFTV is scooping is when he rivered something like an A/2/4/5(?), and so therefore raising > calling for JJ if he has a Low just because there's definitely a chance JJ thinks LFTV is bet/folding at least more than never/more than LFTV is scooping(what does JJ think of LFTV?).

And not surprisingly, I don't know the math (nor feel like trying to clumsily attempt the math) for how often JJ has a full house here, but I can't imagine it being THAT high. I could easily be wrong though, because I'm definitely just shooting from the hip here.

Re: Stud 8 open trips vs. John Juanda
 

0evg0--

What does Juanda have?

--Nate