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PokerBob 06-13-2007 01:07 PM

hand reading exercise
 
this hand is live 6/12
utg is an asian old guy who is completely out of his mind.
mp is a young kid who apparently knows who i am.

utg raises, mp 3 bets, i 4bet, utg calls, mp caps at 5, we call.

flop 3 ways: A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
utg checks, mp bets, i raise, utg coldcalls, mp 3towns, i call, utg calls.

turn: 6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
utg checks, mp bets, i raise, utg folds, mp calls.

river: 4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
mp bets, i call.

well, what do i have?

Gap23Razor 06-13-2007 01:31 PM

Re: hand reading exercise
 
looks like AKo or high pair (no diamond) to me...i think your play on the flop and turn looks as if you are trying to protect your hand against a draw...

(looking forward to other comments, and op analysis)

nooob 06-13-2007 01:35 PM

Re: hand reading exercise
 
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looks like AKo or high pair (no diamond) to me...i think your play on the flop and turn looks as if you are trying to protect your hand against a draw...

(looking forward to other comments, and op analysis)

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there's no way to 'protect' ur top pair against a draw here. the pot's just too big.

might help if you tell us what position you're in and how many handed...

nooob 06-13-2007 01:43 PM

Re: hand reading exercise
 
[ QUOTE ]
this hand is live 6/12
utg is an asian old guy who is completely out of his mind.
mp is a young kid who apparently knows who i am.

utg raises, mp 3 bets, i 4bet, utg calls, mp caps at 5, we call.

flop 3 ways: A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
utg checks, mp bets, i raise, utg coldcalls, mp 3towns, i call, utg calls.

turn: 6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
utg checks, mp bets, i raise, utg folds, mp calls.

river: 4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
mp bets, i call.

well, what do i have?

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hmm.. sooted connectors with diamonds? anywhere from 89d - KQd.

Aces McGee 06-13-2007 01:45 PM

Re: hand reading exercise
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
this hand is live 6/12
utg is an asian old guy who is completely out of his mind.
mp is a young kid who apparently knows who i am.

utg raises, mp 3 bets, i 4bet, utg calls, mp caps at 5, we call.

flop 3 ways: A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
utg checks, mp bets, i raise, utg coldcalls, mp 3towns, i call, utg calls.

turn: 6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
utg checks, mp bets, i raise, utg folds, mp calls.

river: 4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
mp bets, i call.

well, what do i have?

[/ QUOTE ]

hmm.. sooted connectors with diamonds? anywhere from 89d - KQd.

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I'm not convinced Bob is cold four-betting any of those preflop.

-McGee

brettbrettr 06-13-2007 01:48 PM

Re: hand reading exercise
 
AxK [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

edited: AK, no diamond

nooob 06-13-2007 01:54 PM

Re: hand reading exercise
 
[ QUOTE ]
AxK [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

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that was my thought originally.. but i wasn't sure on mp3's possible isolation PF raise, as well as bob's thoughts on that possibility, esp since it looks like utg would probably see the flop no matter how many bets to him.

KQs- no cap with only 5-6 players with an 'out of mind' old asian dude, with an avg 6-12 live player?

BigBadBabar 06-13-2007 02:13 PM

Re: hand reading exercise
 
i think maybe ak or kings or queens with the trump?

TheCount212 06-13-2007 02:20 PM

Re: hand reading exercise
 
QJ of diamonds, although I wouldn't be surprised if it was KQ of diamonds.

You wouldn't call 3 cold PF with 22, or 66, and you wouldn't just call on the river with quad fours. But you'd four bet PF with QJs. (I'd have guessed KQ of diamonds, but you just called on the flop, and probably not because you feared someone holding 5d3d with all that preflop action.)
QdJd makes sense given your just calling on the river when the board pairs up.

KitCloudkicker 06-13-2007 02:37 PM

Re: hand reading exercise
 
[ QUOTE ]
this hand is live 6/12
utg is an asian old guy who is completely out of his mind.
mp is a young kid who apparently knows who i am.

utg raises, mp 3 bets, i 4bet, utg calls, mp caps at 5, we call.

flop 3 ways: A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
utg checks, mp bets, i raise, utg coldcalls, mp 3towns, i call, utg calls.

turn: 6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
utg checks, mp bets, i raise, utg folds, mp calls.

river: 4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
mp bets, i call.

well, what do i have?

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looks like AK to me. no diamond.

AKd should not raise this turn (but rather capped the flop). Ako should raise it and fold to a 3 bet.


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