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Lucky_River 06-12-2007 12:28 PM

Should I call that?
 
villian is unknown

PokerStars 2/4 Hold'em (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. MP2 posts a blind of $2.
UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 (poster) 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, UTG folds, Hero

I think that I'm behind and a T may only give the half pott should i call?

KitCloudkicker 06-12-2007 01:07 PM

Re: Should I call that?
 
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villian is unknown

PokerStars 2/4 Hold'em (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. MP2 posts a blind of $2.
UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 (poster) 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, UTG folds, Hero

I think that I'm behind and a T may only give the half pott should i call?

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call and see a turn pls, you're getting 11:1. dont be a wuss.

JJH3984 06-12-2007 02:45 PM

Re: Should I call that?
 
yeah easy call. You have between 4 outs to broadway and 2 outs to trips.

StrictlyStrategy 06-12-2007 02:47 PM

Re: Should I call that?
 
K, so are we check folding a red Ace on the turn?

skelm 06-12-2007 06:13 PM

Re: Should I call that?
 
I'd say you really only have the 3 10's (not counting 10c) and 2 Jacks to give you the best hand - maybe not even the two jacks given the pre-flop action. I think it's an easy fold but I know a lot of people are going to disagree with this.

KitCloudkicker 06-12-2007 07:23 PM

Re: Should I call that?
 
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I'd say you really only have the 3 10's (not counting 10c) and 2 Jacks to give you the best hand - maybe not even the two jacks given the pre-flop action. I think it's an easy fold but I know a lot of people are going to disagree with this.

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if pot was smaller i would agree, however when getting 11:1 you must gamble even if drawing very thin imo.

Jantjebeton 06-12-2007 07:26 PM

Re: Should I call that?
 
Is the chance on a flush so high that we substract 2 full outs? Split pot is a problem as well. An ace still has some chance to give you the best hand. So let's say you have about 4 outs in total, then you need 11:1 to call right? The pot is offering that, not even taking into account the implied odds. I think we have to call this flop.

Point Blank 06-12-2007 09:24 PM

Re: Should I call that?
 
[ QUOTE ]
I'd say you really only have the 3 10's (not counting 10c) and 2 Jacks to give you the best hand - maybe not even the two jacks given the pre-flop action. I think it's an easy fold but I know a lot of people are going to disagree with this.

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can't discount that much when heads-up ... what hands do you think villain 3bets with and has a flush draw?

EDIT:
also ... poster 3bet may look something like this

77+, A9s+, ATo+, KJ(T)s+, KQo, QJs

I dont' want to do the maths right now ... but just a quick look says we at least call the flop

JJH3984 06-13-2007 01:04 AM

Re: Should I call that?
 
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I know a lot of people are going to disagree with this.

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Only cuz yr wrong.


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