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Samystylez 06-12-2007 08:59 AM

KK in small stake NL Tourney
 
Hello

I played a MTT on everest. 1dollar buy in .
Unfortunately i dont know a converter that converts everest so i write down the situation.

blinds is 15//30 ihave like 4000 and opp has same

I have KK utg+1 i bet 100
all fold only mp2 calls
flop 4c 8d Ts

I bet 400 opp calls

turn 7c I go all-in opp calls and shows 7T

.....

what should i have done or just bad luck

thx

sam

grasiu 06-12-2007 09:16 AM

Re: KK in small stake NL Tourney
 
Preflop: 150 or call/allin (let go on scary multiway flop if no allin pf)

After your pf: bet pot flop and bet 2/3 pot turn, give yourself chance to run. But at $1 tournaments I guess its not realy a big thing.

Those are my ideas. Are they correct?

Samystylez 06-12-2007 09:31 AM

Re: KK in small stake NL Tourney
 
call/allin?
what does that mean? either just call blind or go all in?

why bet pot and why 2/3

thx

sam

fuzz66 06-12-2007 12:39 PM

Re: KK in small stake NL Tourney
 
the rule on these forums is not too include results with original post( tends to cloud peoples responses)
the all in turn bet was terrible, your only getting called by 2 pair, a set, or a completed str8.the turn seven is a very scary card as it completes a sr8. think about it, what was villian calling flop with?. throw a block bet out there and fold to a raise.
villians stack size and reads would be really cool!

xxGreat1xx 06-12-2007 12:57 PM

Re: KK in small stake NL Tourney
 
raise more pf and dont just shove your chips in. He's prob calling on a draw and this card is scary. All you can beat is a pure bluff or by some miracle he is betting with A10 for all his chips. Anything could happen in these things though

grasiu 06-12-2007 07:00 PM

Re: KK in small stake NL Tourney
 
call/allin - I dont know if I can write it like this, but by it I meant call pf (opting for a raise) and move allin pf if smn raises.
If noone raises be ready to fold flop or later.

Pot flop is standard, 2/3 turn explained by fuzz66.

paddymcg21 06-12-2007 07:10 PM

Re: KK in small stake NL Tourney
 
I like the way this is played. It's a 1 dollar tourney, literally ull see T8, JT, QT all day in a raised pot. I also like the flop bet, actually overbetting the flop your more often than not making ur opponent make a mistake in calling. After he calls I wudnt go all in tho. Bet around 800 and if he shoves your likely beat. Still villain played this like a donk.

fuzz66 06-13-2007 10:59 AM

Re: KK in small stake NL Tourney
 
i disagree. heroes raise from early position narrows his range(1010-AA...AKo, AKs).a lot of good players will call here with marginal hands against weaker opponants with big stacks because of the huge implied odds and the difficulty for weaker players to get off big hands. the overbet on the flop was suspiciuos, villan had med. pair, overcard, backdoor str8 with the possibility of drawing dead non-existant.once again, calling the flop based on huge implied odds against heros range. maybe im giving villian more credit than he deserves, but i cant say his play was wrong.

FishyMcFish 06-13-2007 11:12 AM

Re: KK in small stake NL Tourney
 
Mark the opponent down as someone you'd like to play with all day if they call UTG 3 x raises with 7T.

Pre-flop fine, I don't think players in a $1 are concerned with implied odds and would have the forsight to call marginal hands to hit a big flop. Flope bet was okay but try betting less, it means you are getting info from him and building a pot without commiting yourself to it. If he calls then you know he has something of it, then you can lead for less on the turn, see the raise/all in from villain and throw your KK away.

fuzz66 06-13-2007 11:31 AM

Re: KK in small stake NL Tourney
 
yes, keep looking for players that outplay you postflop and end up stacking you. building big pots with a big stack with hands that have little chance of improving without the ability to get away from the hand when you are beat is disasterous.wether its a 1$ or 1000$ tourney.


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