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ianisakson 06-11-2007 01:22 AM

weird river spot $400nl
 
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

UTG ($362.60)
Hero ($539.20)
MP2 ($287)
CO ($301.95)
Button ($480.35)
SB ($431)
BB ($564.25)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif.
[color=#666666]1 fold</font>, [color=#CC3333]Hero raises to $12</font>, [color=#666666]3 folds</font>, SB calls $10, [color=#666666]1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($28) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif [color=#0000FF](2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($28) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif [color=#0000FF](2 players)</font>
[color=#CC3333]SB bets $16</font>, [color=#CC3333]Hero raises to $48</font>, SB calls $32.

River: ($124) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif [color=#0000FF](2 players)</font>
[color=#CC3333]SB bets $4</font>, [color=#CC3333]Hero raises to $108</font>, [color=#CC3333]SB raises to $371</font>, Hero ??????


Should I have just called the river min-bet?
Do I have to call now?
What does my hand look like if you're Villain?

ianisakson 06-11-2007 01:22 AM

Re: weird river spot $400nl
 
oh and why did my hand convert so weird

FGators 06-11-2007 01:25 AM

Re: weird river spot $400nl
 
I would have raised the river around what you did.

Turn is not my favorite; I'd generally just bet the flop. I think you have to fold now. His little scheme worked and I doubt he's doing this with a lesser King or air.

ianisakson 06-11-2007 01:30 AM

Re: weird river spot $400nl
 
the reason I check behind the flop is that a c-bet doesn't work very often on a 7-high flop and checking behind can make my hand look stronger, so now I expect him to put me on an overpair when I raise the turn.

DaSpade 06-11-2007 01:43 AM

Re: weird river spot $400nl
 
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the reason I check behind the flop is that a c-bet doesn't work very often on a 7-high flop and checking behind can make my hand look stronger, so now I expect him to put me on an overpair when I raise the turn.

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An overpair wont be afraid of getting it's c-bet raised or will it check behind giving a free card with a flush draw on that flop.

Ohara 06-11-2007 04:44 AM

Re: weird river spot $400nl
 
A 4$ min bet, very odd. How was this player played nut hands previously? It's either a full house or a busted draw. I'm guessing since I know nothing about the player (other than He/She is a weak player for making a river bet of min)that a 4$ bet was an attempt to keep the pot cheap. The player would doubtfully put you on an overpair, since you checked the flop. The player made a stop n go river bet, which is very odd. I think that you should have made the continuation bet on the flop. I guess it would depend on how much you know about this player, because I'm sure the player knew you were betting with overcards on the turn.

sammy71 06-11-2007 05:17 AM

Re: weird river spot $400nl
 
He's a donkey that flopped a set- your hand is clearly AA or AK here- Please FOLD

Big_Jim 06-11-2007 05:26 AM

Re: weird river spot $400nl
 
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oh and why did my hand convert so weird

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I'd probably just call the turn. I don't think he's bet/folding much that you beat, and I think your hand is good a ton.

As played, river raise looks good, and I probably fold to the push.

Your hand looks like air, or a big hand. He could be rebluffing, but wouldn't he just make his move on the turn, if that was the idea? If he has less than your hand, he can't really be re-raising for value unless he has a random KQ/KJ[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], in which case it's still pretty damn thin.

FGators 06-11-2007 04:51 PM

Re: weird river spot $400nl
 
Ian,

In regards to the flop check...

On a 732 flop you might not be able to take it down with one bet on the flop....thats where barrelling again becomes profitable.

ianisakson 06-11-2007 05:39 PM

Re: weird river spot $400nl
 
yeah he had KK, I was like WTF!!!!! I knew he probably would have 3-bet the 3 on the turn or the flopped set. IMO maybe the funniest played KK i've seen


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