V DS $1060 Flopped set on scary board
 

300/600-50

Hero is CL at table with over 70K in MP.
BB is pretty aggro with 40K
MP solid with about 25K or so.

Few limped pots. This one was limped 5 ways (pot= 3450)

Hero with 6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Flop: 9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

BB overbets pot to 4500.

Hero ???

Re: V DS $1060 Flopped set on scary board
 

i prob raise to 15000 and call a jam. the only hand your really worried about it 87. if hes very aggro he prob raises 99 or 87(s). raise and call a shove most likely he has a combo draw with 58ss/47ss. even if flopped the straight you still have outs

Re: V DS $1060 Flopped set on scary board
 

Where are all the limpers sat?

In any case, I raise to 15,000 and call jam (as above). Don't think there is too much explanation needed, the board is draw heavy in a multiway limped pot, easy raise and call of shove.

Re: V DS $1060 Flopped set on scary board
 

I feel like a shove looks so much weaker (looks so much more like a draw) than a raise to 15k and if the opponent is a thinking player he might be calling a shove with anything that he would open-overbet with.

If my opponent is an internet type I shove.

Re: V DS $1060 Flopped set on scary board
 

def raise call jam.

Re: V DS $1060 Flopped set on scary board
 

would much rather see a larger raise than 15k here. 20k or allin seems preferable given the stack sizes and board texture.

Re: V DS $1060 Flopped set on scary board
 

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I feel like a shove looks so much weaker (looks so much more like a draw) than a raise to 15k and if the opponent is a thinking player he might be calling a shove with anything that he would open-overbet with.

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This line of thought assumes so much about your opponents. Most opponents don't stop to think "hmmmm... overbet with awkward stacks = draw", which is why lots of decent players just always overbet when stacks are awkward and they don't really get exploited too much.

So I'd make it 12k to give him room to shove. Not that it matters much. IMHO he's calling a shove here really often and he's shoving over a raise really often.

Re: V DS $1060 Flopped set on scary board
 

Hero jams.

MP jams.

BB tanks and folds.

MP shows 78 for flopped str8, board doesn't pair.