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xxGreat1xx 06-06-2007 09:46 PM

4/180 did I make the right move?
 
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG (t3035)
UTG+1 (t1315)
MP1 (t2800)
MP2 (t1325)
MP3 (t2040)
CO (t3895)
Button (t1080)
Hero (t3335)
BB (t1415)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls t100, <font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t300</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t500</font>, Hero calls t200.

Flop: (t1100) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets t550</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t2835</font>, UTG calls t1985 (All-In).

Turn: (t6470) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: (t6470) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t6470


I dont know if I played this right even though I ended up winning the pot. How should I play this?

Cornell Fiji 06-06-2007 09:52 PM

Re: 4/180 did I make the right move?
 
do you have any reads on UTG? Had he been limping a lot? What do you think his UTG limping range was?

What was the purpose of your pf raise? Was it to take the pot down or to bloat the pot out of position with a marginal hand?

xxGreat1xx 06-06-2007 09:58 PM

Re: 4/180 did I make the right move?
 
Oh yea sorry...I have only seen him play a few hands and he has re-raised twice with marginal hands. Once with QJ suited and once with 77. He folded to a flop raise once and raised himself once and took it down

kniper 06-06-2007 10:10 PM

Re: 4/180 did I make the right move?
 
IF you are going to raise this, bump it up to 450. 300 is asking for him to call this.

SuperUberBob 06-07-2007 03:40 AM

Re: 4/180 did I make the right move?
 
I'd probably just flat call. You're out of position against a player who opened in early position. Even if it's for a limp, I find hard to believe that he folds often enough to a raise to make raising profitable. You just build the pot out of position with a hand that is definitely behind the average UTG player's range, especially since he re-raised you here.

I'd probably feel sick about this whole situation in general and kick myself for raising so little OOP.

All_In_Olly 06-07-2007 09:15 AM

Re: 4/180 did I make the right move?
 
Pre flop I raise to 400 if I don't fold, but I'm basically trying to steal.

Don't mind the CRAI if you think hes capable of folding.

Gorvacofin 06-07-2007 10:21 AM

Re: 4/180 did I make the right move?
 
Given villain's previous moves, I wonder if CRAI is going to have enough folding equity. He seems like a 'let's gamble' kind of guy..

Borys313 06-07-2007 10:47 AM

Re: 4/180 did I make the right move?
 
Rasing a hand like AT from blinds at full ring is just asking for trouble, you arent likely to be ahead. And why tip your hands strength, or force yourself to c-bet on flop.

jon_1van 06-07-2007 12:12 PM

Re: 4/180 did I make the right move?
 
your preflop raise makes me want to vomit.

DeuceSeven 06-07-2007 01:55 PM

Re: 4/180 did I make the right move?
 
A raise is fine pf, if villain is raising with mediocre hands I would imagine his limping hands are God awful. Raise to 400 preflop. Usually crazy reraisers don't fold on the flop if they have anything, looks like a safe board so I would have led out with a 700 cbet (actually a value bet), it's much cheaper then a crai. If you're raised I 3 bet allin. As played the crai looks ok, but in my experience this guy's calling with tpnk or an underpair or AK. I don't mind the crai and as long as you're not up against a set or AA you're no worse then a slight dog.


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