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geo8o2 06-05-2007 06:06 AM

NL200 2 hands i messed up terribly
 
villain in 1st hand is leatherass9. likes to iso and squeeze and seems very creative. been multi-tabling, but he's on a lot of my tables and he stands out above every1 else.

as for the hand, i thought it was a way ahead way behind type. so i just called, then the turn came and he went into the tank for like 20 seconds. then came out with the bet. bad fold?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Hero ($361.90)
SB ($256.55)
BB ($160.20)
UTG ($278.30)
MP ($102.10)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif.
[color=#CC3333]UTG raises to $8</font>, [color=#666666]1 fold</font>, Hero calls $8, [color=#666666]2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($19) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif [color=#0000FF](2 players)</font>
[color=#CC3333]UTG bets $12</font>, Hero calls $12.

Turn: ($43) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif [color=#0000FF](2 players)</font>
[color=#CC3333]UTG bets $30</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $73




second hand, villain is donbana. no reads. can i call the river as played? what's a better line to take then the one i took since i know mine was stupid.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

CO ($198.40)
Button ($226.05)
SB ($206.90)
Hero ($361.55)
UTG ($238.60)
MP ($227.45)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif.
[color=#666666]3 folds</font>, Button calls $2, SB completes, [color=#CC3333]Hero raises to $10</font>, Button calls $8, SB calls $8.

Flop: ($30) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif [color=#0000FF](3 players)</font>
SB checks, [color=#CC3333]Hero bets $18</font>, Button calls $18, SB folds.

Turn: ($66) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif [color=#0000FF](2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Button checks.

River: ($66) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif [color=#0000FF](2 players)</font>
[color=#CC3333]Hero bets $30</font>, [color=#CC3333]Button raises to $90</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $186

DeadMoneySimm 06-05-2007 07:01 AM

Re: NL200 2 hands i messed up terribly
 
Hard to tell w/o knowng what an $8 raise means. I've played 1/2 where $12 was the standard pre flop bet. But in any case, I think the first situation was an easy fold for several reasons. I hate AJ, #1, but more important, if he's a multi-tabler, he probably had AQ or AK. Why would he waste his time with a weak hand when he could be playing another table's hand in a better situation?

The second one, I think you could have bet more with AA, maybe $15 or so. I prefer not to play or to isolate and $8 was not getting that across. Add to that a terrible flop, turn &amp; river. How can you possibly know where you are at? I think you fold rather easily there.

leatherass 06-07-2007 01:35 AM

Re: NL200 2 hands i messed up terribly
 
I totally remember this hand...lol I had 89 spades.

orange 06-07-2007 01:43 AM

Re: NL200 2 hands i messed up terribly
 
1- i call vs. leather. he's a strong player and capable of making many double barrels. i would probably call a river too if not a club.

2- i think you played fine, but i think your boned by that river.

luckybacon 06-07-2007 02:01 AM

Re: NL200 2 hands i messed up terribly
 
yeah i probably call vs leather on the turn in hand 1
hand 2 gotta fold the river i guess.
I also would probably move tables if he was on a lot of your tables. leatherass is the best player ive played against at this level.


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