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yourface 06-03-2007 11:28 PM

close turn spot in blind battle vs LAG
 
villain is a LAG

Poker Room skin
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $5/$10
4 players
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Pre-flop: (4 players) yourface is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">yourface 3-bets</font>, SB calls.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6SB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, yourface calls <font color="aaaaaa">(7:1)</font>.

Turn: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, yourface is getting 5:1

toss 06-03-2007 11:30 PM

Re: close turn spot in blind battle vs LAG
 
Don't fold. Probably see a showdown.

MacGuyV 06-03-2007 11:31 PM

Re: close turn spot in blind battle vs LAG
 
Could've donked lots of draws besides J9, plus you have a gutshot yourself plus SD value, I no fold here.

jba 06-03-2007 11:38 PM

Re: close turn spot in blind battle vs LAG
 
i think this is a fact and not opinion: if your turn decision is close, your pf play is bad.

yourface 06-03-2007 11:40 PM

Re: close turn spot in blind battle vs LAG
 
uh how so?

toss 06-03-2007 11:43 PM

Re: close turn spot in blind battle vs LAG
 
I think jba means you should call, otherwise why 3-bet preflop?

nickg1532 06-03-2007 11:47 PM

Re: close turn spot in blind battle vs LAG
 
meh, crappy turn card, but i call

jba 06-03-2007 11:48 PM

Re: close turn spot in blind battle vs LAG
 
i'm saying dont make big pots against a guy where you might have to make questionable folds with a showdownable hand that has lots of outs when behind.

yourface 06-03-2007 11:49 PM

Re: close turn spot in blind battle vs LAG
 
I don't see how those are related.
he's a LAG, not a maniac. I can't just blindly take A high to showdown ignoring the board and action.

milesdyson 06-03-2007 11:55 PM

Re: close turn spot in blind battle vs LAG
 
worst thing about this turn card is how it affects the river. when he gets called on that turn he is more likely to give up with busted draws. if it were a turn 6 or 7 i'd feel way better about calling on the river.

i think you should fold certain river cards that just nail the rest of his worse hands. 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] are folds imo. K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] are both close and probably folds too.

re: pf i think it's fine to build pots against laggier players. they'll put pressure on you whatever you do, but you can push your equity advantage preflop when you have a big hand like this.


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