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Izo Fazo 06-03-2007 05:42 PM

Nut flush vs. Set/Straight! Where´s the way to valuetown?
 
My image is taggy. Villian is 30/7/2 over a decent sample sice. The main question is how to extract the most value.


Absolute Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $368
Izo Fazo: $319.30
Button: $429
SB: $431.60
BB: $400.75

Pre-flop: (5 players) Izo Fazo is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls, <font color="#cc0000">Izo Fazo raises to $8</font>, 3 folds, UTG calls.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($19, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $18</font>, Izo Fazo calls.

Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($55, 2 players)
UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">Izo Fazo bets $36</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $100</font>,

thac 06-03-2007 05:49 PM

Re: Nut flush vs. Set/Straight! Where´s the way to valuetown?
 
I really like a minraise here ([censored] you all), it'll give him the illusion that he has fold equity and it'll also make him unable to fold any hand that he check/raises except air.

Kowalski 06-03-2007 06:00 PM

Re: Nut flush vs. Set/Straight! Where´s the way to valuetown?
 
Shove now please.

LouisCyphre 06-03-2007 06:12 PM

Re: Nut flush vs. Set/Straight! Where´s the way to valuetown?
 
If he has a set he has 10 outs which gives him odds of 3.4:1.
If you call his bet, there is already 255$ in the pot. Not considering implied odds you have to at least raise $100 to deny him the immediate odds to draw to a full-house. As you have only $193 so you are pot-committed anyway if you raise only $100 and it also looks more threatening you should shove here.
Sometimes you will make him fold a straight or a smaller flush but not all players have the discipline to lay down those hands. Other times he check-raised with a weak holding and you take away his ability to bluff at it again.
Despite that I would play it straighforward here and not try to get cute.

blah-blah-blah 06-03-2007 06:18 PM

Re: Nut flush vs. Set/Straight! Where´s the way to valuetown?
 
UTG's bet size on the flop seems like he wants to b3b so I'm raising the flop so a dumb card doesn't come on the turn that kills action. as played, if you just call, I think there's a really high likelihood you get it all in on a non spade river but a spade could kill your action so I would lean towards getting it in on the turn.

0evg0 06-03-2007 06:30 PM

Re: Nut flush vs. Set/Straight! Where´s the way to valuetown?
 
you already missed one spot to raise, please dont miss another

cs3 06-03-2007 06:42 PM

Re: Nut flush vs. Set/Straight! Where´s the way to valuetown?
 
easy turn push.

next time raise flop.


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