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captainwacky 06-01-2007 08:53 PM

yes? no? really no?
 
the title of my post are what ran through my head right after this play. thoughts?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (3 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($401.10)
SB ($1196.50)
Hero ($843.70)

Preflop: Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $16</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $12.

Flop: ($34) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $32</font>, Hero calls $32.

Turn: ($98) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Button checks.

River: ($98) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $72</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $795.7</font>,

Final Pot: $965.70

xorbie 06-01-2007 09:00 PM

Re: yes? no? really no?
 
220

FionnMac 06-01-2007 09:05 PM

Re: yes? no? really no?
 
preflop is horrible, 3-bet or fold, and with no reads i hate the oop float. your hand does look like a jack so a standard tag would probably fold an overpair here, but how the hell do we know this if you don't give us any reads/stats?

nextgenneo 06-01-2007 09:06 PM

Re: yes? no? really no?
 
looks pretty bad. getting out of line vs complete unknowns is also known as spew

captainwacky 06-01-2007 09:09 PM

Re: yes? no? really no?
 
alright, good, just checking.

Readzie 06-01-2007 10:15 PM

Re: yes? no? really no?
 
if your gonna get fancy, CR the flop.. way more believable then all of this hand.

although i dont think much can call you aside from the actual jack. Which he could also easily have and tried to rep his hand as a cbet that didnt want to 2 barrel.

depends on the level of player, at 5/10 and higher i definnitly wouldnt take this line.

xorbie 06-01-2007 10:17 PM

Re: yes? no? really no?
 
you know its all you guys saying this sucks who are bet/fold 99+ in this spot

Readzie 06-01-2007 10:18 PM

Re: yes? no? really no?
 
yep it would be very hard to call with anything but a jack. Its just that the problem is that the hero did not REP a jack at any point in this hand.

and the villian could definitly have a jack if hes a fancy player. Thats the problem i have with this hand, although i definitly would be the guy folding saying why the freg did i have to V bet this river with 99 etc

xorbie 06-01-2007 10:20 PM

Re: yes? no? really no?
 
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Its just that the problem is that the hero did not REP a jack at any point in this hand.

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Hero checks, Button bets $72, Hero raises to $795.7,

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Readzie 06-01-2007 10:22 PM

Re: yes? no? really no?
 
wtf, you know exactly what iam saying, next time ill word it

"did not rep a jack at any point before the river"

okay? why waste my time and get this personal

especially when i said that i would be the guy folding anything but a jack here and cursing myself for betting the river.

whats your deal?


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