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winky51 02-20-2006 10:45 AM

10/20 and 20/40 live reasonable ROI
 
Those who play live regularly please answer this one.

I keep hearing different things about live tables and ROI. One person tells me because higher limits are softer and a good player can read his opponents his ROI in live games is higher than 1 BB per hour.

From what I understand, actually told me by Ed Miller, is that if you do very well at 3/6 online, then live 10/20 and even 20/40 you should do good also. I have played live 10/20 and most of the player play like the 2/4 online.

I prefer live play. I read players extremely well. I Read Mike Caro's book several times, I am self aware of my tells, look for them in others. I take notes of tells and keep track comparing them to other players. I have found them vary useful especically in NL tournaments. I even figure out opponents hands when I am not in the hand. I also have good instincts. I know reads help in live play but how much can it help? Can you make 2 BB per hour or more playing live higher limits?

I mean comparing playing 4x 3/6 online to 1x 10/20 live with reads. You should make $30 at 3/6 r tabling. Can you make $30-$40 at 10/20 live? I know the variance is more and rake is more genrally.

My problem is I can't stare at a PC focused on poker for more than 2 hours. My brain starts getting tired playing 4-5 tables. 1 table live I can play for 8 hours easy.

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Thremp 02-20-2006 11:57 AM

Re: 10/20 and 20/40 live reasonable ROI
 
Do both. Play during the day on European sites where its way late... and then head to the local casino for the tourists and night owls.

Bishop22 02-20-2006 03:49 PM

Re: 10/20 and 20/40 live reasonable ROI
 
I play 4-5 days/wk online and 1-2 days live, I find it a nice mix. I think I am making about 1.5 BB/hr in AC at 10-20 but almost all my live play is on the weekends. It's hard to have a sufficient samply size for B&M play but I would guess you can break 1BB/hr up to about 40-80 with good table selection, obviously playing smaller games when necessary.

PokerCad 02-20-2006 04:21 PM

Re: 10/20 and 20/40 live reasonable ROI
 
A 2 BB/hr expectation is way high over the long run in live B&M Some of the most expert players I know (some of them post on these boards) are pretty maxed at 1.5 BB/hr at around 40-80. The inevitable 100-150 BB down swings really bite into your winrate


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