Warm up JJ spot
 

Just moved to table a round or two ago. This is villains first open that i know of. SB is gigabet. When people 4X pre i tend to assign them a range of like 99-QQ, AK. On flop i'm now behind TT/QQ, and i question how much 99/AK will keep things up. What should my line be?

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No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t400/t800
(Ante: t50)
9 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: t26560
UTG+1: t13125
MP1: t28188
MP2: t22258
Hero: t40205
CO: t42013
Button: t22050
SB: t31388
BB: t22027

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is MP3 with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">MP1 raises to t3200</font>, MP2 folds, Hero calls t3200 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t4850)</font>, 2 folds, SB calls t2800 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t8050)</font>, BB folds.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (t10850, 3 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">MP1 bets t7200</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero?

Re: Warm up JJ spot
 

do not call preflop if you're folding that board. I push preflop FWIW and push this flop too. I don't understand your reasoning in calling pf and then not knowing what to do on that board. What was your plan?

Re: Warm up JJ spot
 

i usually just shove/minraise here, whichever you think would look weaker at the time.

Re: Warm up JJ spot
 

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do not call preflop if you're folding that board. I push preflop FWIW and push this flop too. I don't understand your reasoning in calling pf and then not knowing what to do on that board. What was your plan?

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i think his decision on the flop is call or raise, folding is definitely not one.

edit: rereading the OP, seems he is considering folding.... i don't really think thats an option.

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do not call preflop if you're folding that board. I push preflop FWIW and push this flop too. I don't understand your reasoning in calling pf and then not knowing what to do on that board. What was your plan?

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I think if you jam pre you only get called by the very top end of his range at these stacks where as calling in position here when you get under card boards TT/99 is going to stack off a lot.

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do not call preflop if you're folding that board. I push preflop FWIW and push this flop too. I don't understand your reasoning in calling pf and then not knowing what to do on that board. What was your plan?

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i think his decision on the flop is call or raise, folding is definitely not one.

edit: rereading the OP, seems he is considering folding.... i don't really think thats an option.

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Yea, you can't fold this flop.

Re: Warm up JJ spot
 

I was watching when this hand went down, so with that, I think as you played it, it was fine and I would have done the same play.

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why is folding not an option?

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i should say, that without a really strong read, i dont think folding is an option. It'd have to be a pretty ridiculous hypothetical player for me to just fold to one bet on that flop, after hvaing just called pf.

Re: Warm up JJ spot
 

I can't see doing anything but shoving, no? In my experience the warm up is the softest tournament online. Versus an unknown I think it would be a mistake to fold here.