are you brave enough to call this
 

earlier he 4-bet me all in preflop with A4 I had AK.

villain is playing like %50-70 pots. Limping all the time. LAG as [censored]. Full ring. One hand he open shoved quick and took it d

Villain limps, has 14k. some guy raises to 250. I call with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]j[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] rest fold.

Flop J103 rainbow 850 pot.

Villain thinks 2 seconds and shoves.

other guy folds.

13k to me.

Re: are you brave enough to call this
 

Its only a new car and you have top top. Put it in.

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Funny, I had EXACT same hand come up vs Phil Laak and he showed middle set. Thinking back it was a really bad call. Villain is probably not a moron (an assumption on my part) so even if he does not have you beat now he probably has a ton of outs... but he probably has you beat and shoving for value figuring with his insane image you're calling a lot lighter than usual.

Kirk

PS. Also, I'm assuming you won the A4 vs AK hand, right? That makes it an auto-muck because NO ONE wants to double up the same [censored] twice in a row, so a huge overbet from a player you've been owning is almost never a bluff, he's too afraid to give you even more money and look stupid. What's happening is he's desperately trying to get his monies back from you and is betting for value.

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no way im calling this unless hes a total maniac, even IF he has KQ you have a coinflip

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villain def. is a moron and total maniac.

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still. in my view he has to be shoving like this on like 30-40% of the flops he sees to make this call profitable

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PS. Also, I'm assuming you won the A4 vs AK hand, right? That makes it an auto-muck because NO ONE wants to double up the same [censored] twice in a row, so a huge overbet from a player you've been owning is almost never a bluff, he's too afraid to give you even more money and look stupid. What's happening is he's desperately trying to get his monies back from you and is betting for value.

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I agree with this but he's shoving into two people, the PFR as well as OP. This takes away a little bit of the personal aspect but it also makes a big made hand or good draw a larger part of his range than a hand like QJ so it's still a fold.

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Call fasttt but I bet you got screwed here. Who was villain? I'm guessing it was Twin, HesFullOf, or Chace3131

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this is online?

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i agree with ghaz's points.