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prodonkey 05-22-2007 05:26 PM

AJ 50nl flop Jxx donk bet into
 
Villain is 22/11/2, haven't seen him go wild like this yet, he'd pot control some pots with top pair.. etc.


Usually I'm not a raise for info kind of guy, but when I raise this and he comes over top.. I've represented AJ or an overpair, and he doesn't seem to care. there are 0 draws on the board. Pretty much a set most of the time right?



Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $21.60
BB: $66.95
UTG: $61.65
<font color="black">Hero (CO): $52.35</font>
BTN: $48.95

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt Jhttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.50</font>, BTN calls $1.50, SB calls $1.25, BB calls $1.00

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($6) 3http://legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7http://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif (4 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">BB bets $4.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $17.00</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">BB raises all-in to $65.45</font>, Hero folds
Uncalled bet of $48.45 returned to BB

Pot Size: $40.00 ($2 Rake)

Worm75 05-22-2007 05:31 PM

Re: AJ 50nl flop Jxx donk bet into
 
As played, looks fine you are on a super dry board, and this looks like a classic set vs overpair hand here. Aggression factor of 2 means that he doesn't really get out of line with bluffs here either, so easy fold

VayaConDios 05-22-2007 05:31 PM

Re: AJ 50nl flop Jxx donk bet into
 
Is there really any reason to raise his flop bet? The board is pretty dry.

Abramovic 05-22-2007 05:32 PM

Re: AJ 50nl flop Jxx donk bet into
 
I think your raise is too big. I may call here occasionally too. Easy fold to 3bet

prodonkey 05-22-2007 05:36 PM

Re: AJ 50nl flop Jxx donk bet into
 
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Is there really any reason to raise his flop bet? The board is pretty dry.

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So I call the flop.. he bets $8 on the turn, what then? Fold having shown no agression other than preflop?

Bramsterdam 05-22-2007 05:37 PM

Re: AJ 50nl flop Jxx donk bet into
 
I usually call flop, this is WA/WB. Also raise turn to $12 instead of $17

Angrymoog 05-22-2007 06:56 PM

Re: AJ 50nl flop Jxx donk bet into
 
I can feel where prodonk is coming from. Without raising here you show weakness, and a good opponent can really lay the pressure on to make it very hard for you to call by the river, especially when a K or Q peels off. Also there are other players in the hand who may call along, further increasing pot size. I think that is reasoning which justifies a raise here.

robert jordan 05-22-2007 08:56 PM

Re: AJ 50nl flop Jxx donk bet into
 
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I can feel where prodonk is coming from. Without raising here you show weakness, and a good opponent can really lay the pressure on to make it very hard for you to call by the river, especially when a K or Q peels off. Also there are other players in the hand who may call along, further increasing pot size. I think that is reasoning which justifies a raise here.

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Yea, I like the raise too.. It just seems a little too big.


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Pretty much a set most of the time right?

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I think so.

Spleen 05-22-2007 09:00 PM

Re: AJ 50nl flop Jxx donk bet into
 
I'll parrot what everyone else has said. As played, good fold. I would call that flop bet, you may get plenty of relatively safe action against a QJ or KJ kind of hand, while being able to fold to a large bet on turn or riva.

kolotoure 05-22-2007 09:02 PM

Re: AJ 50nl flop Jxx donk bet into
 
I raise this flop about 70% and call the rest of the time. Like others have said raise should probably be a little smaller


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