25 NL, TPTK, bet 2 streets, villian donks river with 4 to a straight
 

Villain has not gotten out of line at all. He shows he's thinking (capible of laying down TPTK)

Edit: At the time I wrote this post, I perceived him as being able to lay things down, but I forgot to mention that I have caught him once before bluffing the river before with a medium sized bet

He's 23/18/3

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $34.05
BB: $77.95
UTG: $27.65
MP: $13.30
CO: $12.40
<font color="black">Hero (BTN): $45.60</font>

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
2 folds, CO calls $0.25, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.25</font>, SB calls $1.15, 2 folds

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($3) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $2.25</font>, SB calls $2.25

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($7.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $6.00</font>, SB calls $6.00

<font color="black">River:</font> ($19.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $5.00</font>, Hero

Re: 25 NL, TPTK, bet 2 streets, villian donks river with 4 to a straig
 

fold is weak, raise is ***beep***
CALL [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Re: 25 NL, TPTK, bet 2 streets, villian donks river with 4 to a straig
 

Check behind turn and call a blank river. However, that river is not a blank.

Re: 25 NL, TPTK, bet 2 streets, villian donks river with 4 to a straig
 

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Check behind turn and call a blank river. However, that river is not a blank.

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there are a lot of draws out there

Re: 25 NL, TPTK, bet 2 streets, villian donks river with 4 to a straig
 

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Check behind turn and call a blank river. However, that river is not a blank.

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I agree. Your hand is so vulnerable here that keeping the pot small is substantially more important than protecting your hand from draws.

Re: 25 NL, TPTK, bet 2 streets, villian donks river with 4 to a straig
 

bump for more ppl to see.

I feel that folding getting 5:1 on what could be a bluff or a weak hand might be giving up too much value

Crovax

Re: 25 NL, TPTK, bet 2 streets, villian donks river with 4 to a straig
 

A thread came up with similar circumstance yesterday I believe.

Popular conclusion was that there were just as many draws on the board to protect from on the turn as there are on the flop, so why stop protecting?

Re: 25 NL, TPTK, bet 2 streets, villian donks river with 4 to a straig
 

nh. I like b/f the turn. The river is never a bluff, but could be a blocker so I call, but dont expect to be good much.

Re: 25 NL, TPTK, bet 2 streets, villian donks river with 4 to a straig
 

This is so close on turn i dont think there is anything awful with a check or a bet. as played id say you are beat here 90% of the time, given how the hand played to that point. you are getting less than 5-1 on your money on this river. so oddswise, given my read, its a fold. but i suppose your read that villain has river bluffed in past is of note, but you said in past he bluffed half pot (much less here).

from villains perspective this would be suchhhhhh a better river to bluff c/r but thats another thread.

continuing with my initial thought. its pretty close all around. my gut tells me we are beat no this river but i probably crying call and see the straight.

Re: 25 NL, TPTK, bet 2 streets, villian donks river with 4 to a straig
 

I'll end this thread. I called his bet, he showed Th8h

Made a note, but I was pretty confused

Crovax