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mikeymer 05-19-2007 06:28 PM

FTOPS 100+R: AA during 2nd Hour.
 
Full Tilt Poker Game #2462784095: FTOPS Event #9 (17982306), Table 3 - 60/120 - No Limit Hold'em - 18:12:27 ET - 2007/05/19
Seat 1: Chancew (9,655)
Seat 2: mary hinge 16 (13,880)
Seat 3: InoUrCards2 (6,262)
Seat 4: freshmeat63 (3,500)
Seat 5: Chances Cards (9,553)
Seat 6: The_Dean221 (8,205)
Seat 7: mman_status (10,981)
Seat 8: JennyPooBear (8,255)
Seat 9: Code_version (4,704)
InoUrCards2 posts the small blind of 60
freshmeat63 posts the big blind of 120
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to mman_status [Ad As]
Chances Cards calls 120
The_Dean221 calls 120
mman_status raises to 600
JennyPooBear folds
Code_version folds
Chancew folds
mary hinge 16 calls 600
InoUrCards2 folds
freshmeat63 has 15 seconds left to act
freshmeat63 folds
Chances Cards has 15 seconds left to act
Chances Cards calls 480
The_Dean221 calls 480
*** FLOP *** [9s 7h 6h]
Chances Cards bets 600
The_Dean221 folds
mman_status: ???

Chances Cards solid winner of 1k games on FTP, not sure who he is.

ZJ123 05-19-2007 06:52 PM

Re: FTOPS 100+R: AA during 2nd Hour.
 
Yuck, his small bet is wierd, but hes good, i played with him last FTOPS i think. I think you see a set often, but also TT/ JJ that hes leading/folding. Your Deep enough to raise/fold. A Call isnt out of the question either.

Soulman 05-19-2007 06:58 PM

Re: FTOPS 100+R: AA during 2nd Hour.
 
Ugh...small bet looks like either a blocking bet with a draw, or a raise-inducing bet with a set. I don't think it's TT/JJ too often.

If he's got a combo draw, I doubt you're getting him out with a reraise...much as it blows, I think I actually prefer a call here. Tell me I'm wrong?

RandALLin 05-19-2007 07:03 PM

Re: FTOPS 100+R: AA during 2nd Hour.
 
All I know is, with AA here you do NOT want to play a big pot, so play for pot control and hope the turn bricks off.

The more I think about it, his line is a great line to enduce a re raise from an overpair to shove a big draw, as it of often mixed in the range with sets. Although I wish he would bet half pot at least this is too small of a bet, or either it's such a small bet if he gets flat called he is getting a good price with a big draw.

0evg0 05-19-2007 08:04 PM

Re: FTOPS 100+R: AA during 2nd Hour.
 
He's really open-limping 99/TT/JJ?

ZJ123 05-19-2007 08:09 PM

Re: FTOPS 100+R: AA during 2nd Hour.
 
Im a retard, i thought this was a re-raised pot. Yeah so pretty much disregard my first post.

0evg0 05-19-2007 08:46 PM

Re: FTOPS 100+R: AA during 2nd Hour.
 
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All I know is, with AA here you do NOT want to play a big pot

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I don't see why not.

He's happy to 3-bet all-in with his entire range, and I think we're ahead of his range.

It's marginal, and so maybe this is one of those pass-up-a-marginal-spot-in-an-MTT things, but I think people usually grossly overestimate the importance of that.

His range is like 66/77 (less weighted because he's probably open-limping this less than the proceeding hands), two-pair, pair+OESD (incl 88 - weighted less), pair+FD, FD.

Someone can Stove it to make sure, but I'm pretty sure we're ahead of that. And it helps that we don't have the Ah here.

RandALLin 05-19-2007 10:39 PM

Re: FTOPS 100+R: AA during 2nd Hour.
 
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All I know is, with AA here you do NOT want to play a big pot

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I don't see why not.

He's happy to 3-bet all-in with his entire range, and I think we're ahead of his range.

It's marginal, and so maybe this is one of those pass-up-a-marginal-spot-in-an-MTT things, but I think people usually grossly overestimate the importance of that.

His range is like 66/77 (less weighted because he's probably open-limping this less than the proceeding hands), two-pair, pair+OESD (incl 88 - weighted less), pair+FD, FD.

Someone can Stove it to make sure, but I'm pretty sure we're ahead of that. And it helps that we don't have the Ah here.

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The reason I am more leaning towards playing a small pot is b/c the villian is an utg limper. 99/77/66 is soooooooooooo much more likely to want to b3bai than a combination of hearts or 88/TT/98/87/86, or a straight flush draw, and why would we want to get all in on the flop vs. a sfd? I just think this is a set when you get all in way more than it is a random combo draw.

0evg0 05-19-2007 10:42 PM

Re: FTOPS 100+R: AA during 2nd Hour.
 
I see no reason to assume he's open-limping 66/77/99 with much frequency since he's apparently a good player and stacks are fine for opening there.

RandALLin 05-19-2007 10:45 PM

Re: FTOPS 100+R: AA during 2nd Hour.
 
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I see no reason to assume he's open-limping 66/77/99 with much frequency since he's apparently a good player and stacks are fine for opening there.

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That's fine then, but I just hate putting in a ton of chips/my tournament life on the line in such marginal spots where I have to fade these huge draws early(if he doesn't have a set here) so to me it feels like gamble vs. a draw or get alot of money in with few outs.


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