Does he know what a steal reraise is ?
 

Here's a tournament situation I was in tonight. Pokerstars, but I'm deliberately not stating the buyin because that's really the meat of the question.

Blinds 25/50, hero with about 2K finds 99 in the cut-off and makes it 150. Villain in the BB, who has us covered, reraises to 500. Now, in the 50 rebuy or any other decent tournament where there's a lot of restealing going on, this is an obvious shove IMO. But what if it's a smaller tournament, or a tournament with satellite entrants, and the villain has say an average buy-in of $50 and an ROI of -20% on OPR ? So he's not a complete donk but still isn't very good and isn't likely to be very imaginative.

Can anyone justify any other action than shoving all-in ?

Re: Does he know what a steal reraise is ?
 

Meh, ugly spot.

Re: Does he know what a steal reraise is ?
 

OPR is very inaccurate. I would not base my play on it.

Re: Does he know what a steal reraise is ?
 

I find it tracks my own results accurately. I don't rely on it totally but clearly if someone's average buyin is $10 they're going to play differently from someone whose average buyin is $250. In the absence of any other info (and I don't pick up a lot of reads because I'm multi-tabling) this is better than nothing.

Anyway maybe it is just an ugly spot. FWIW he had AA, gg me.

Re: Does he know what a steal reraise is ?
 

Bonified,

I wouldn't expect a lot of guys to randomly resteal a lot this early in an MTT.

Re: Does he know what a steal reraise is ?
 

Well the Phil Gorden Pocket pair principle says your up against a higher pair 7,5 % in that spot, you say the BB has you covered and it could be a resteal then its still a large bet at this stage, without any reads Id give this one up, if he has allready tried this move a couple of times this toerny Id shove

and another thing, what is your reputation this toerney had the BB any reads on you yet??

Re: Does he know what a steal reraise is ?
 

Even in higher buyins, people don't resteal anywhere near as much as you'd think reading these boards, and especially not at this blind level. On Stars, no one ever folds here to a four-bet push. So there's no FE and it's a marginal against a standard range IMO. Where it's marginal I tend to shove anyway but I think it's spew more often than not.

Re: Does he know what a steal reraise is ?
 

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Well the Phil Gorden Pocket pair principle says your up against a higher pair 7,5 % in that spot

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The what principle?

I'd put BB's range on 99+,AJ+ or so as a default, with a really small percentage being air. Sure, he might be getting tricky here, but I don't think it's worth it. Fold.

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Well the Phil Gorden Pocket pair principle says your up against a higher pair 7,5 % in that spot

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The what principle?

I'd put BB's range on 99+,AJ+ or so as a default, with a really small percentage being air. Sure, he might be getting tricky here, but I don't think it's worth it. Fold.

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Re: Does he know what a steal reraise is ?
 

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Bonified,

I wouldn't expect a lot of guys to randomly resteal a lot this early in an MTT.

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No, *good* players don't resteal early in a tournament.