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TheBob 05-18-2007 03:49 PM

Nl50 flop pair and a flush draw in 3 bet pot
 
Villain leads flop for 7 dollars am I best to just call on the flop or is this definetely a jam type flop for my hand?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($45.80)
BB ($48.50)
UTG ($12.90)
UTG+1 ($56)
MP1 ($59.65)
MP2 ($49.30)
Hero ($78.85)
Button ($49.25)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $6</font>, Hero calls $4.

Flop: ($12.25) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: $12.25

GrandMelon 05-18-2007 03:54 PM

Re: Nl50 flop pair and a flush draw in 3 bet pot
 
Fold pf, as played call the flop.

mack848 05-18-2007 03:57 PM

Re: Nl50 flop pair and a flush draw in 3 bet pot
 
If you raise, he calls/pushes with AK or AQ and folds KK, QQ. So, if called you are a 2:1 dog.

I call as you can fully expect to make enough on the turn/river if you hit your flush to make it +EV (another $11 ish). ALso, he will often give up if he bet the flop without an Ace - so you don't necessarily lose every time you miss the flush.

Landlord79 05-18-2007 04:09 PM

Re: Nl50 flop pair and a flush draw in 3 bet pot
 
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If you raise, he calls/pushes with AK or AQ and folds KK, QQ. So, if called you are a 2:1 dog.

I call as you can fully expect to make enough on the turn/river if you hit your flush to make it +EV (another $11 ish). ALso, he will often give up if he bet the flop without an Ace - so you don't necessarily lose every time you miss the flush.

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QFT

CaptainCAM 05-18-2007 04:21 PM

Re: Nl50 flop pair and a flush draw in 3 bet pot
 
i call here as well. but i dont think pushing this thing is so bad either. we win a big one a little more than 40% of the time and you could fathom some players folding even AK or AQ here. but unless you have a read here such as that i think its more +EV to call it and see what comes next.

TheBob 05-18-2007 04:28 PM

Re: Nl50 flop pair and a flush draw in 3 bet pot
 
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If you raise, he calls/pushes with AK or AQ and folds KK, QQ. So, if called you are a 2:1 dog.

I call as you can fully expect to make enough on the turn/river if you hit your flush to make it +EV (another $11 ish). ALso, he will often give up if he bet the flop without an Ace - so you don't necessarily lose every time you miss the flush.

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I agree with your rational but we're nowhere near a 2-1 dog if we get all in.

reno expat 05-18-2007 05:25 PM

Re: Nl50 flop pair and a flush draw in 3 bet pot
 
You can apply some pressure. You are nearly 50/50 against a better aces. 11 outs twice gives you something like 47% equity in that spot if he's holding AK without Kh..


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