two tables left in the million....
 

PokerStars Game #9902043860: Tournament #49445990, $200+$15 Hold'em No Limit - Level XXXI (80000/160000) - 2007/05/14 - 00:51:23 (ET)
Table '49445990 473' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 2: Himclip85 (9373754 in chips)
Seat 3: bachelor_80 (2978416 in chips)
Seat 4: gruber10 (5272167 in chips)
Seat 5: mcc3991 (1690867 in chips)
Seat 6: drahma (1869282 in chips)
Seat 7: danohasnuts (2841608 in chips)
Seat 8: RunThisTable (2726690 in chips)
Seat 9: DuyTheMaster (4186329 in chips)
Himclip85: posts the ante 16000
bachelor_80: posts the ante 16000
gruber10: posts the ante 16000
mcc3991: posts the ante 16000
drahma: posts the ante 16000
danohasnuts: posts the ante 16000
RunThisTable: posts the ante 16000
DuyTheMaster: posts the ante 16000
DuyTheMaster: posts small blind 80000
Himclip85: posts big blind 160000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to RunThisTable [7d 7c]
bachelor_80: folds
gruber10: folds
mcc3991: raises 1514867 to 1674867 and is all-in
drahma: folds
danohasnuts: folds
RunThisTable: raises 1035823 to 2710690 and is all-in

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discuss.

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i should add i need ~45% for it to be +cEV. is it worth giving up some edge cEV wise because the payout structure is so top heavy? if so, how much?

also wondering if u are villain what's ur push range(obv an unknown's will not be the same as most of us)?

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My first thoughts are that you are slightly behind is range with only marginal overlay, and that you have no FE.

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and that you have no FE.

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Is this one of those leveling things that are so popular these days?

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and that you have no FE.

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Is this one of those leveling things that are so popular these days?

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lol I was just pointing out that it sucks to play a marginal hand when someone has already shoved because you know the only way to win the pot is to win the showdown

Also what must be taken into consideration is the chance that one of the blinds pick up a hand behind us. Although it might be slim, it is existant, and does effect the EV of an already marginal situation.

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also wondering if u are villain what's ur push range(obv an unknown's will not be the same as most of us)?

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Pretty wide if his bankroll is healthy. If i'm playing to cash it's a different story akbout my range.. in the million will that matter? Stakes are way outta may range but if I play it like a 10/180...

Now that I've hedged... AJ+ 66+...maybe KQs... if I'm him my M = 5 and i'm in the HJ...and I'm getting frisky. If it's me playing add in any Ax... and any two paint now that I think about it.

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he's 1 before the hijack and obv i was asking about optimal push range...ie disregarding his mindset and bankroll etc.

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I was talking to chewy about this.

Against a smart thinking pro, you can call their 10 BB shoves with a huge range and 77 is crushing them.

However, vs an unknown deep in the million who is going to be very risk averse, this is a fold IMO.

When non professional players get deep with a shot at way more money than their used to, you can be sure of 2 things:
A. They won't resteal on you.
B. They will open shove way to tight.

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I agree with bond.

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i should add i need ~45% for it to be +cEV. is it worth giving up some edge cEV wise because the payout structure is so top heavy? if so, how much?

also wondering if u are villain what's ur push range(obv an unknown's will not be the same as most of us)?

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What are peoples' thoughts on this?

If you knew a call was breakeven cEV, would you call?