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LegallyBlind 05-13-2007 04:27 AM

some help needed with a hand and pokerstove
 
i raise $16 UTG with AQo

good solid player (22/20/6) calls

droller in the bb calls

flop = Q T 4 rainbow

droller checks, i bet $36, good player reraises to $100, droller folds. I seriously debate folding, because i know he has to have something to raise through the droller. then decide he could just as easily have a draw, so i shove ($400 eff stacks)

he snap calls with TT and owns me.

so im killing myself for making what i think is a stupid play. but i decide to run it through pokerstove since i can pretty much pinpoint his range and it gives me this.


Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

43,560 games 0.005 secs 8,712,000 games/sec

Board: Qs Tc 4h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 49.222% 49.19% 00.03% 21426 15.00 { AcQh }
Hand 1: 50.778% 50.74% 00.03% 22104 15.00 { TT, 44, KJs, QTs, J9s, KJo, QTo, J9o }


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seems a lot closer than i thought. i dont use pokerstove much, so i might have screwed something up...but does this mean pushing is correct and i am just being results oriented. or am i missing something

Hoopster81 05-13-2007 04:33 AM

Re: some help needed with a hand and pokerstove
 
what happens when you take out QTo, KJo, and J9o?

LegallyBlind 05-13-2007 04:40 AM

Re: some help needed with a hand and pokerstove
 
[ QUOTE ]
what happens when you take out QTo, KJo, and J9o?

[/ QUOTE ]


good point, those most likely arent in his pf range. although i kept a couple of Kjo combinations in there, cause he might call every once in a while with those, being otb

its 41.5/58.5

Hoopster81 05-13-2007 05:04 AM

Re: some help needed with a hand and pokerstove
 
I think your image is important here.

The fish being involved along with you c-betting into that flop texture makes it very likely you have a decent hand here.

The more TAG you are the more Villain is probably calling flop with those draws and raising with hands that beat you.

If you play on the crazier side, I think you played it fine.

soah 05-13-2007 05:15 AM

Re: some help needed with a hand and pokerstove
 
If he's 22/20 then that doesn't leave very much of a range for coldcalling - if he is frequently calling raises with KJs and J9s then he should be more like 25/20 or 22/17 or whatever. I would weight his range pretty heavily towards pocket pairs when he cold calls.

duh 05-13-2007 06:09 AM

Re: some help needed with a hand and pokerstove
 
try it with just 44 and TT+

CopTHIS 05-13-2007 06:46 AM

Re: some help needed with a hand and pokerstove
 
You need to weight by how often he makes a play with certain hands. If you think he only does it sometimes with a certain hoolding, or if he may do it most times but often would fold pre-flop, then for the sake of fiddling around (it's not a precise science let's face it) then just give a subset. Eg if sometimes, but rarely he makes a play with J9 then you could count only Jd9d/JsJs etc


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