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hellmuth88 05-12-2007 09:37 AM

[50NL] 2 times kk
 
Just finished my first 9 table session on 50nl. On the following two hands i'm not sure if i played it well.
(probably because of the lack of time)


Hand 1: What to do after his minraise on the turn?

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

T1waz: $93.90
DonPokerin: $55.65
Hero: $127.00
minute_man1: $133.36
Roman555222: $146.15 (22/16/2)
martimcfry: $92.50

Preflop: Hero is dealt K K (6 Players)
Hero raises to $2.00, minute_man1 folds, Roman555222 calls $2.00, 3 folds

Flop: ($4.75) 5 9 2 (2 Players)
Hero bets $3.25, Roman555222 calls $3.25

Turn: ($11.25) 7 (2 Players)
Hero bets $10.50, Roman555222 raises to $21.00, Hero calls $10.50

River: ($53.25) J (2 Players) (no flushes possible)
Hero checks, Roman555222 bets $35.00, Hero folds

Pot Size: $88.25



Hand 2: How do i play this hand?

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

Hero: $49.50
Cheaf22: $61.56 (77/50/3)
bar_kungen: $105.15
ruhrpott_ge: $17.50
garymillar2: $16.31
ronaldo789: $93.07 (61/14/0.5)

Preflop: Hero is dealt K K (6 Players)
2 folds, garymillar2 calls $0.50, ronaldo789 raises to $2.50, Hero raises to $8.50, Cheaf22 calls $8.00, garymillar2 folds, ronaldo789 calls $6.00

Flop: ($26) J Q 3 (3 Players) (2 clubs)
Hero checks (stupid check??), Cheaf22 bets $25.00, ronaldo789 calls $25.00, Hero folds (as played fold ???)

Turn: ($76) 2 (2 Players)
Cheaf22 bets all-in for $28.06, ronaldo789 calls $28.06

River: ($132.12) 5 (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $132.12 ($3.50 Rake)

(
ronaldo789 had A J (a pair of Jacks) and WON (+$67.06)
Cheaf22 had T J (a pair of Jacks) and LOST (-$61.56)
)

Musgale 05-12-2007 11:43 AM

Re: [50NL] 2 times kk
 
try to convert the hand please. it makes it easier to read
the first hand I would just fold the turn. The turn minraise is super strong. I might bet a little more on the flop too.
2nd hand I would just bet the flop. This is NL50 and people call 3bet with all sorts of stupid stuff.

prodonkey 05-12-2007 11:55 AM

Re: [50NL] 2 times kk
 
wtf are u 3 betting then check folding for.. arg. Vs donkeys with those kind of stats, that's a gin flop. Basically the only hand that beats you is JQ. I bet near pot on the flop and call a shove.

fsista 05-12-2007 12:36 PM

Re: [50NL] 2 times kk
 
I would go broke here with 10 000 big blinds versus these opponents, nice fold (move down or stop playing scared money versus two megafishes).

I assume you checked so that the 77/50/3 super maniac would bet with his ATC so that you could trap money behind with the calling station fish then simply crai.

fsista 05-12-2007 12:36 PM

Re: [50NL] 2 times kk
 
First hand is fine.

hellmuth88 05-12-2007 03:58 PM

Re: [50NL] 2 times kk
 
[ QUOTE ]
I would go broke here with 10 000 big blinds versus these opponents, nice fold (move down or stop playing scared money versus two megafishes).

I assume you checked so that the 77/50/3 super maniac would bet with his ATC so that you could trap money behind with the calling station fish then simply crai.

[/ QUOTE ]

The check was a clear mistake. As played: the fact that someone called the 25 dollar made me think that i am not ahead anymore.
If the guy who bet out didnt get a caller i would insta shove this all day long.

Lets say i did bet 2/3 of the pot on the flop. And both villains shoved at me. What should i do then????


btw: sorry for the bad hh converter i used.

fsista 05-12-2007 08:45 PM

Re: [50NL] 2 times kk
 
Umm... The calling station fish with 0,5 aggression factor called. He's a 60 vpip guy so he can have anything here. A gutshot, bottom pair, under pair, anything. I would be happy to get all money in there.

Stop being weak tight nitty.

gimmetheloot 05-12-2007 09:37 PM

Re: [50NL] 2 times kk
 
1st is fine...2nd you should just stick it in on the flop vs these two idiots if you are checking. I am bet-folding though, bet-calling if the retarded aggro donk comes over the top. Also, little more pf, because here, you can get away with it.

fsista 05-13-2007 12:27 PM

Re: [50NL] 2 times kk
 
I would never fold even if that passive calling station raised, he can just as easily have AQ as he can have QJ.

renotime 05-13-2007 12:38 PM

Re: [50NL] 2 times kk
 
first hand i might fold second one i would go broke with


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