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bernie 05-10-2007 07:16 PM

NFL history into a Serie system
 
I love how Europe has the Series system for soccer. So what I'm going to try and do is look at the NFL(standing-wise) if it ran on that type of system.

Basically, I'll take the 1st NFL(1966*) season and use the records(not counting playoffs) and form (with AFL and NFL) 3 series of eight teams from that to begin with.

Once it's split in 3, then if you're in the top 3 of the bottom at the end of the season(only reg season games count) you move up while the bottom 3 of the one above move down.

Any new teams start at the lowest series. Once enough teams are in the league a new series would form(becoming the bottom serie) until we have 4 eight team series that would be there today.

Teams moving would still keep their place in a serie. Only new teams would start in the lower one. For instance, since the Ravens are from Cleve, they'd keep their standing while the new Cleve team would come in as a new team.

Obviously, the games/stats/standing part of it won't be quite accurate since their schedules would obviously be different if they played in this format than the ones being accounted for, but it should still be interesting.

Any ideas to make this experiment bit better are welcome.

* I'm starting it there(1966) since that's when the crossover was. I don't think going back farther would do much. However, it might be better to do it once they combined in 1970. Thoughts on that also appreciated.

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gusmahler 05-10-2007 08:15 PM

Re: NFL history into a Serie system
 
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* I'm starting it there(1966) since that's when the crossover was. I don't think going back farther would do much. However, it might be better to do it once they combined in 1970. Thoughts on that also appreciated.


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The NFL and AFL didn't start playing each other until 1970, so I think it would be best to start there.

bernie 05-10-2007 08:26 PM

Re: NFL history into a Serie system
 
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* I'm starting it there(1966) since that's when the crossover was. I don't think going back farther would do much. However, it might be better to do it once they combined in 1970. Thoughts on that also appreciated.


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The NFL and AFL didn't start playing each other until 1970, so I think it would be best to start there.

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Good idea. I was pondering that when telling a bud of mine about this on the phone. I do need the crossover games involved since they do play different series against each other during a season.

We were also thinking of doing this with NCAAF with the top 6 conferences and, ugh, ND. Maybe later. I'll see how this goes first.

So 1970+ it is!

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bernie 05-10-2007 09:08 PM

1970
 
Initial placement based on 1970 standings

Serie A-8 teams

Min 12-2
Bal 11-2-1
SF_ 10-3-1
Det 10-4
Dal 10-4
Mia 10-4
Ram 9-4-1
Gia 9-5

Serie B 9 teams

Oak 8-4-2
Stl 8-5-1
Cin 8-6
KC_ 7-5-2
Cle 7-7
Was 6-8
GB_ 6-8
Chi 6-8
SD_ 5-6-3

Serie C 9 teams

Den 5-8-1
Pit 5-9
Atl 4-8-2
Jet 4-10
Phi 3-10-1
Hou 3-10-1
Buf 3-10-1
NO_ 2-11-1
Bos 2-12

gusmahler 05-10-2007 09:11 PM

Re: NFL history into a Serie system
 
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Once it's split in 3, then if you're in the top 3 of the bottom at the end of the season(only reg season games count) you move up while the bottom 3 of the one above move down.

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With only 8 or 9 teams in each division, isn't moving 3 teams a lot? The EPL has 20 teams and only moves 3 teams.

bernie 05-10-2007 09:35 PM

Re: NFL history into a Serie system
 
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Once it's split in 3, then if you're in the top 3 of the bottom at the end of the season(only reg season games count) you move up while the bottom 3 of the one above move down.

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With only 8 or 9 teams in each division, isn't moving 3 teams a lot? The EPL has 20 teams and only moves 3 teams.

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I thought between 2 or 3 teams. I wanted to give teams a good chance of moving. Thinking of parity as it comes into play a bit later on.

Thinking as I write this part: With 3, the only serie that really gets affected is the middle which would leave it 1/3 intact. 2 might be better as that leaves it with 5 normal and 4 moving.

I think 2 will work.

Glad you caught me as I was about to post 1971

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bernie 05-10-2007 10:18 PM

Re: 1970
 
1971

Boston becomes New England

Serie A

Dal 11-3
Dallas wins with better (real) div record. PF being the next tie breaker.
Min 11-3
Mia 10-3-1
Bal 10-4
SF_ 9-5
Ram 8-5-1
------------------relegation line
Det 7-6-1
Gia 4-10


Serie B

KC_ 10-3-1
WAS 9-4-1
----------Ascension line
Cle 9-5
Oak 8-4-2
SD_ 6-8
Chi 6-8
GB_ 4-8-2
--------------------RL
Stl 4-9-1
Cin 4-10

Serie C

Atl 7-6-1
Phi 6-7-1
---------AL
Pit 6-8
NE_ 6-8
Jet 6-8
NO_ 4-8-2
Den 4-9-1
Hou 4-9-1
Buf 1-13

bernie 05-10-2007 10:43 PM

Re: 1972
 
1972

Serie A

Mia 14-0
Was 11-3
Dal 10-4
SF_ 8-5-1
KC_ 8-6
Min 7-7
--------------RL
Ram 6-7-1
Bal 5-9

Serie B

Oak 10-3-1
GB_ 10-4
------------AL :GB wins H2H over Cle 26-10
Cle 10-4
Det 8-5-1
Gia 8-6
Atl 7-7
SD_ 4-9-1
---------------RL SD had better div record
Chi 4-9-1
Phi 2-11-1

Serie C

Pit 11-3
Cin 8-6
-------------AL
Jet 7-7
Den 5-9
Buf 4-9-1
Stl 4-9-1
NE_ 3-11
NO_ 2-11-1
Hou 1-13

ThaSaltCracka 05-10-2007 10:44 PM

Re: 1972
 
Interesting stuff Bernie, keep it going.

bernie 05-10-2007 10:49 PM

Re: 1972
 
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Interesting stuff Bernie, keep it going.

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It's kinda fun to do actually. Not as tedious as I first thought it would be. Then again, I do have near 4 decades to go. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

Some interesting movement so far.

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