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TheWunderkind 05-09-2007 02:09 PM

im confused (stats content)
 
So i thought i really play the optimum on profitable hands now since i have 32/22 stats in my db now but then i took a closer look and changed Filters and for 5 handed games i only Play 26/17 and 4 handed its 33/24? 3 handed its 42/30 and HU its 55/24..im not so familar with stats an do think theyre reasonable but i wonder abou tthe 5 handed stas because i expected them to be at least at 28/19 or even higher so i wonder if i miss some Hands out wich i can profitabily Play > or is it hard to say because it matters to much about the games i play table selection etc and i shouldt worry as long i am winning(2,5 over last 32K tough)

Any of you 30/20 Guys...do you play this style in 5 and 6 handed games too or is this because you play 4 handed and shorter often too?

jstill 05-09-2007 02:12 PM

Re: im confused (stats content)
 
I think playing alittle less than 30/20 is actually better 5-6 handed at most overaggro tables now a days. HU and 3 handed ur stats arent really where u want them tho, Im not sure u can really win playing so few hands that short I mite avoid playing HU until u have a better feel for it or maybe study HU preflop or something.

sethypooh21 05-09-2007 02:19 PM

Re: im confused (stats content)
 
I run in the 30/20 range, and I very, very very rarely stay at a table once it gets to 3-handed or less, because I feel I suck 3-handed and especially HU. At least at LHE (I'm somewhat better HU NLHE), though I'm considering gearing down a bit from the BB, as I'm down like .20/h from the BB right now (.07/h from the SB.)

yourface 05-09-2007 02:34 PM

Re: im confused (stats content)
 
with many limpers and cold callers some hands become unprofitable to play preflop, compared to in a more tight aggressive game where you will be more likely to end up heads up with the blinds.

for example, a hand like K9 or A4 may be worth an open raise in LP but I will dump them if there are limpers. also on tables with players who like to cold call behind me I don't play as many offsuit aces, weak broadways, and small PPs from the earlier positions.

edit: I will filter my stats when I get home and see what I come up with.

another thing, your hu/3handed vpip stats may be artifically low if you play with bad players who give you lots of free looks from the BB.

TheWunderkind 05-09-2007 02:38 PM

Re: im confused (stats content)
 
I have to say that the tables i play are pretty loose compared to stars ot wpex ot what you guys play....mostly 5-6Bb av Pot 50-80% FSR many limpers a lot of coldcallers( no one folds 2 facecards a ace or anything suited or connected)

i only play worse tables if i have 1 donater to my right > i play 5/10 and taking shots to 10/20 from time to time(succesfully)

Beastmaster 05-09-2007 02:43 PM

Re: im confused (stats content)
 
must be nice to play are your site...

TheWunderkind 05-09-2007 02:44 PM

Re: im confused (stats content)
 
I defend 15/45% 5 handed and HU PFR is 42 not 24

Verde 05-09-2007 02:52 PM

Re: im confused (stats content)
 
I've always been a winning player, slowly adding hands to become 32/22/2, average 5 handed but recently I've run soo bad that I'm making an effort to tighten up until I learn how to not lose every session I play.
At least running bad made me study and improve my play, I hope to be back playing 25-50 in a few months, but the games have gotten tougher and I don't think 32/22 is optimal for most players, maybe for the best though

Oink 05-09-2007 03:03 PM

Re: im confused (stats content)
 
Hi Wunder

You play the 5-max at ongame right? It is worth to remember that your vpip/pfr figures really depend on table conditions.

I play 5/T and T/20 mostly party. Last 13k hands I run at 29/22 with 42 ATSB and 80/42 fold SB/BB to steal

6 handed - 26/19 7k
5 handed - 30/23 4.3k
4 handed - 37/26 1.1k
3 handed - 48/38 0.3k

FWIW if its 3-handed I steal something like 60% from the button. I really think you should loosen up when it gets real short. Your HU stats look extremely tight, but if you only play HU against villains that never raise preflop that would explain it. I think my HU stats are something like 75/50 when I play HU tables.

TheWunderkind 05-09-2007 03:13 PM

Re: im confused (stats content)
 
yeah most players i play HU are lp fish> if there are aggros i dont play bcauz i suck HU and get owned by good players so i make sure im vs bad> also I just started playing HU so my numbers may have changed> i have only 4K Hu Hands logged in>


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