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Sponger. 02-18-2006 03:12 AM

The bill of rights
 
So I don't really like it when people say things like "oh but you can't take away our guns, its unconstitutional" and I thought wow it would be really cool if we could just repeal the second amendment. So anyways, what would you guys delete from the bill of rights if you could? Feel free to just do line item vetoes if you want. Also, I'm not gonna post the rest, but go ahead and talk about the other amendments if you want and why you hate those. Like those damn limits on congressional pay raises (jk).


* First Amendment – Freedom of speech, press, religion, peaceable assembly, and to petition the government.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

* Second Amendment – Right to keep and bear arms.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed.

* Third Amendment – Protection from quartering of troops.

No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.

* Fourth Amendment – Protection from unreasonable search and seizure.

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

* Fifth Amendment – Due process, double jeopardy, self-incrimination, private property.

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

* Sixth Amendment – Trial by jury and other rights of the accused.

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.

* Seventh Amendment – Civil trial by jury.

In suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise reexamined in any Court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.

* Eighth Amendment – Prohibition of excessive bail, as well as cruel or unusual punishment.

Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

* Ninth Amendment – Protection of rights not specifically enumerated in the Bill of Rights.

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

* Tenth Amendment – Powers of states and people

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

hmkpoker 02-18-2006 03:15 AM

Re: The bill of rights
 
Criminalize gun ownership, and the guns will end up on the black market the next day. Use some common sense.

Sponger. 02-18-2006 03:16 AM

Re: The bill of rights
 
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Criminalize gun ownership, and the guns will end up on the black market the next day. Use some common sense.

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WOW I NEVER THOUGHT OF THIS!

fluxrad 02-18-2006 03:16 AM

Re: The bill of rights
 
What the hell, let's repeal the 9th. No one's followed it since Griswold anyway.

BCPVP 02-18-2006 03:17 AM

Re: The bill of rights
 
16th Amendment

SheetWise 02-18-2006 03:23 AM

Re: The bill of rights
 
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Criminalize gun ownership, and the guns will end up on the black market the next day. Use some common sense.

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WOW I NEVER THOUGHT OF THIS!

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It's actually quite complicated. First you have to smuggle them into the country. This requires several pounds of cocaine to hide the guns in, so that you can get through border security.

fluxrad 02-18-2006 03:26 AM

Re: The bill of rights
 
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Criminalize gun ownership, and the guns will end up on the black market the next day. Use some common sense.

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This is why I'm scared to go to London: all the gun crime.

BCPVP 02-18-2006 03:28 AM

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Criminalize gun ownership, and the guns will end up on the black market the next day. Use some common sense.

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This is why I'm scared to go to London: all the gun crime.

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I think you have to worry more about the non-gun crime. I hear that's been on the rise there.... [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

hmkpoker 02-18-2006 03:55 AM

Re: The bill of rights
 
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Criminalize gun ownership, and the guns will end up on the black market the next day. Use some common sense.

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This is why I'm scared to go to London: all the gun crime.

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That whole correlation/causation thing never got through, did it?

fluxrad 02-18-2006 04:09 AM

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That whole correlation/causation thing never got through, did it?

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Stop being so [censored] myopic.


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