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Jay.Yang 05-06-2007 03:44 AM

10NL (9Max): AA line check
 
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saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

CO ($9.85)
Button ($3.80)
SB ($1.60)
BB ($2.90)
UTG ($2)
<font color="#C00000">MP1 ($7.95)</font>
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($9.35)</font>

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to $0.2</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.6</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, MP1 calls $0.40.

Flop: ($1.35) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to $2</font>, Hero calls $1.

Turn: ($5.35) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero ?

<font color="black">The min-raise on Flop could mean TP, overpair, or anything. Should I bet or check the blank turn? If I should bet at least 1/2 of the pot (say $3), then is it better just to push him all in since he only have $5.35 left? </font>

NickPoker 05-06-2007 03:51 AM

Re: 10NL (9Max): AA line check
 
Reraise the flop to $4 or push
as played bet $3 on turn. Looks like a draw to me.

lautzutao 05-06-2007 07:33 AM

Re: 10NL (9Max): AA line check
 
As played I'd push the turn.

checkmate36 05-06-2007 11:45 AM

Re: 10NL (9Max): AA line check
 
Is putting villian all in on the flop bad?

Jay.Yang 05-07-2007 03:02 AM

Re: 10NL (9Max): AA line check
 
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Is putting villian all in on the flop bad?

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Hmm... I don't know. I don't think pushing the Flop is good. If villain is half-decent, they can prob get away with over-pairs, which we might get more value out of if we just call. But we definitely get called by things that beat us, i.e. sets or straight. No?

effang 05-07-2007 10:31 AM

Re: 10NL (9Max): AA line check
 
c/r flop, check turn, is really horrible line.

he has nothing. get it in.

Panthro 05-07-2007 11:19 AM

Re: 10NL (9Max): AA line check
 
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Is putting villian all in on the flop bad?

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No. Both 3-betting the flop and calling and putting the rest in on most turns is OK.

chip-star 05-07-2007 11:46 AM

Re: 10NL (9Max): AA line check
 
This could easily be JT JJ here.

The way villian has played it is kinda leading me towards top pair with a straight draw as he's shown a little strengh attempting to take the betting lead on the flop as he has alot of draws but he's slown down on the turn when his hands become less of a threat.

I may also call behind on the flop here to see what he does on the turn, if he checks the turn when a card comes that dosnt look like it's helped him i'd bet $3.50 and make him pay to outdraw you.

King Spew 05-07-2007 12:19 PM

Re: 10NL (9Max): AA line check
 
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I may also call behind on the flop here to see what he does on the turn, if he checks the turn when a card comes that dosnt look like it's helped him i'd bet $3.50 and make him pay to outdraw you.

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I bet the flop 95% "for information".... not too many times does betting for info really work, but this is classic. Villain's mini says "I'm on a draw and it's a good draw." (or minorly, "I have an overpair" which doesn't bother much at all.) So now I have money in the pot WHILE I'M AHEAD.

If you wait to the turn to bet, there will be NO EXTRA money in the pot as "most" of the micro players will fold a draw to a good sized turn bet. And you better make good sized bets here. If you give good enuf implied odds, it will be your own fault that you lost the hand. AA is a nice PF and flop hand... I don't want to take it too deep usually.

This is just too simple. You have position,,, so use it!

You can check behind on the turn and allow a free draw ( then call his river bet/bluff) or bet him off his draw.

The problem in this hand is villain's stack size. You have to decide very early whether you want to battle a shortie or not. AA..... I'm stepping to the plate. Shorties aren't usually limp/calling with crap.....unless they are crap themselves.

Jay.Yang 05-07-2007 02:49 PM

Re: 10NL (9Max): AA line check
 
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Shorties aren't usually limp/calling with crap.....unless they are crap themselves.

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IMHO, a lot of the shorties at the level I play are craps themselves tho.


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