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MDoranD 05-04-2007 03:01 AM

1/2 river decision...line discussion please
 
Villain is 22/17/2 over 1270 hands....we actually dont have much history in hands together

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($214)
UTG ($250)
Hero ($976.10)
CO ($200)
Button ($374.20)
SB ($288.20)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $7</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $7, SB calls $6, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($23) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $20</font>, Button calls $20, SB calls $20.

Turn: ($83) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $60</font>, Button calls $60, SB folds.

River: ($203) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $150</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $353


Easy fold on river? Play it different?

Doug Funnie II 05-04-2007 04:46 AM

Re: 1/2 river decision...line discussion please
 
I might check turn and pray button checks behind. After multiple flop callers I'm no longer thinking value town, I'm thinking how can I get into a spot where their river bets are bluffs which I can snap off in a (comparatively) small pot.

MDoranD 05-04-2007 11:22 AM

Re: 1/2 river decision...line discussion please
 
any other advice? I thought the turn was a good card for me plus i really didnt want to give a free card on the turn to whomever might be drawing.

Grunch 05-04-2007 11:28 AM

Re: 1/2 river decision...line discussion please
 
I don't check the turn here if it's not HU.

I don't check the river here unless I think it will induce a bluff, and then I call. Otherwise I'll either block or VB the river. In this case, probably block ~130.

4_2_it 05-04-2007 11:29 AM

Re: 1/2 river decision...line discussion please
 
Why not block the river for $110?

2218 05-04-2007 11:49 AM

Re: 1/2 river decision...line discussion please
 
I play it the same way up to the river. River is a tough spot. I can't think of all that many hands that a 22/17 plays this way. I don't think a call would be that bad, but I don't mind a fold either.

BombayBadboy 05-04-2007 11:53 AM

Re: 1/2 river decision...line discussion please
 
His hand looks alot like a drawing hand, given thhat he is very passive with it on two streets. I'd think he would raise his stronger hands on the flop or turn. Problem is, there are not that many drawing hands out there.

Other hands that seem very possible are a mmekly played JJ or AT.

I think blocking the river is best. He can only really raise you with a hand that beats you.

Isura 05-04-2007 11:55 AM

Re: 1/2 river decision...line discussion please
 
[ QUOTE ]
Why not block the river for $110?

[/ QUOTE ]

[shakes head]

http://isurapoker.com/poker-theory/c...e-blocking-bet

Isura 05-04-2007 11:56 AM

Re: 1/2 river decision...line discussion please
 
[ QUOTE ]


I don't check the river here unless I think it will induce a bluff, and then I call. Otherwise I'll either block or VB the river. In this case, probably block ~130.

[/ QUOTE ]

The thing is that there are no draws except QJ, and that is unlikely considering he didn't raise the flop and he called a big turn bet.

Grunch 05-04-2007 11:57 AM

Re: 1/2 river decision...line discussion please
 
Isura, don't you think you're making some pretty big assumptions about an unknown player?

Not that I disagree with your article, I'm just not sure if it's relevant here.


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