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ryanadam 05-03-2007 06:06 PM

Horrible QQ problem
 
Hi, im getting this horrible situation a lot...
QQ pre cash and 10xBB (4/5/6/7 players .. any position .. any blind level)
Do i shove or do i 3xBB to get action.. im 50/50 whether or not want to just pick up blinds or want to get some action.
I multitable 16s so not 100% focused on reads or stack sizes.
Any opinions appreciated

diditmyway 05-03-2007 06:07 PM

Re: Horrible QQ problem
 
shove pf

diditmyway 05-03-2007 06:08 PM

Re: Horrible QQ problem
 
in Sb i might limp to induce BB to push on me. all other scenarios i push it. only in wierd spots like 4 left and im sb against bb who can bust me when theres a 40 chip stack left i might concider slowing down a little with it.

JGabriel 05-03-2007 06:12 PM

Re: Horrible QQ problem
 
just think a little bit... if you raise and get called PF, your oponents should hold Ax, PP, right? if the flop are against them, they will fold and you won't get any more chips from them. and if they hits, you lose.

so you should push PF and get all your chips in, while you have the best hand. bc not getting value is way better than being broke.

TIGERsrm 05-03-2007 06:19 PM

Re: Horrible QQ problem
 
Just get it in with <10bb. If you make it 3x theres a good chance an overcard will flop putting you to a tough decision. Most hands that will call 3x will call 10x allin anyway, shoving looks weaker as well to the average player.
But like diditmyway mentioned, if folded to you in sb with aggressive player in bb then I would limp for sure.

ryanadam 05-03-2007 06:20 PM

Re: Horrible QQ problem
 
Sorry about lack of details on pos.stacks etc obviously there is occasion when i know bb is a nut and will shove if i limp in sb but as mentioned i multitable so a general rule for me is my reason for post.. at the moment im 75% shoving and 25% 3xbb (still 50/50 opinion) but as we all know in 16s any ace is playable and ALWAYS hits lol ..

Shaver67 05-03-2007 06:23 PM

Re: Horrible QQ problem
 
[ QUOTE ]
Hi, im getting this horrible situation a lot...

not 100% focused on reads or stack sizes.

[/ QUOTE ]

If you want to be good at SnGs you need to be focused on stack sizes- in many cases it is all that matters.

If you want to be good at poker you need to be focused on reads- it's how you put them on a range. Their range is how you figure the best line.

That said 10bb and QQ is NEVER a horrible situation. Shoving is unexploitable w/ alot more than 10- reads and stack sizes will help you determine when something else may be more profitable.

fluorescenthippo 05-03-2007 06:27 PM

Re: Horrible QQ problem
 
haha i love the title of this thread

ryanadam 05-03-2007 06:37 PM

Re: Horrible QQ problem
 
As mentioned i multitable but do note and know a lot of regulars and agreed reads/stacks are important but cannot give it 100% attention...
As mentioned 3xBB does look weak and will sometimes induce a reraise where i instanta call
How often will A or K flop without a Q?
Very often rag ace calls my allin anyway so getting action sometimes from small pairs/connectors.
Im not argueing a side for 3xbb rather than push just got my 3 braincells working overtime a little lol
I started fulltime sngs in April (SC72A-stars) and doing ok but want more!!!
Also seen this play quite often at 1ks 2ks from regulars although that level is more mindgames than perfect at times.

ryanadam 05-03-2007 06:39 PM

Re: Horrible QQ problem
 
Lol yep sounds like it should be in a 'Poker for ladyboys' forum


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