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lapoker17 05-01-2007 03:52 AM

AA 3 handed - is this standard? awful?
 
2/4 on ftp. 3 handed. bb seems a little aggro but hasn't gotten out of line that ive seen.

i (700) raise otb w A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

bb (600) calls

flop 9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (pot 30)

i bet pot he raises pot - i call(?)

turn 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (pot 270)

he pots again, i call (?)

i felt like i should be folding somewhere, but there are so many possibilities!

pete fabrizio 05-01-2007 04:01 AM

Re: AA 3 handed - is this standard? awful?
 
re-raise flop. as played, raise turn.

lapoker17 05-01-2007 04:08 AM

Re: AA 3 handed - is this standard? awful?
 
so at 2/4 people are repotting that flop w/out sets a lot?

piiop 05-01-2007 04:25 AM

Re: AA 3 handed - is this standard? awful?
 
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so at 2/4 people are repotting that flop w/out sets a lot?

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Yah, with sets, combo draws, 2pairs, pair of 9's plus draw, and pure bluff.

Like petey said, reraise flop and raise turn now that you're there.

guilt_trip 05-01-2007 10:40 AM

Re: AA 3 handed - is this standard? awful?
 
On the flop even against 998s6s you're a 2-1 dog. Against 7654 you're a nice fav and even 6543 w/spades you're about even money

So shove flop. He could be trying to make a move assuming you're just c/betting the flop, I'd say something like 7654 is a likely holding and you're a favourite EV wise in that situation.

As played that 8 is an good card. Shove the turn

RoundTower 05-01-2007 06:59 PM

Re: AA 3 handed - is this standard? awful?
 
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so at 2/4 people are repotting that flop w/out sets a lot?

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in my experience definitely on FT. Also you might get 44 or 33 to fold. Stars is more passive and an unknown has 99 more often here.

Also if you do think he has a set more than whatever % of the time you need to fold the river (a lot), play it like you did is fine, you have too many outs to fold even the turn.

iggymcfly 05-01-2007 07:11 PM

Re: AA 3 handed - is this standard? awful?
 
You're playing three-handed. Of course people are repotting without sets. I'm more aggressive then most, but if I'm villian, I'm repotting with any two pair, 765x, any FD + OESD, and any small wrap with a pair. You said villian was aggro, so even if he's not quite as aggro as me, I'm guessing you're way ahead of his range. You definitely want to reraise this on the flop.

Once you get to the turn though, you might as well just call. Villian's got over half of his stack in, so there's no way he's folding anything now and you can still get away if you blank the river.

pete fabrizio 05-01-2007 08:57 PM

Re: AA 3 handed - is this standard? awful?
 
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You're playing three-handed. Of course people are repotting without sets. I'm more aggressive then most, but if I'm villian, I'm repotting with any two pair, 765x, any FD + OESD, and any small wrap with a pair. You said villian was aggro, so even if he's not quite as aggro as me, I'm guessing you're way ahead of his range. You definitely want to reraise this on the flop.

Once you get to the turn though, you might as well just call. Villian's got over half of his stack in, so there's no way he's folding anything now and you can still get away if you blank the river.

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I raise the turn because I think I'm still ahead of his range. FE is bonus.

Edit: or let me put it this way: I don't want to call this turn and fold the river.

lfairban 05-02-2007 12:02 AM

Re: AA 3 handed - is this standard? awful?
 
Not awful.

Did he ck/r the flop? I would assume he has top set.

You have 9 nut flush outs, 3 nut str8 outs and 3 non nut str8 outs plus two top set out with the As.

Call and hope he bets the river when you have made your hand.

lapoker17 05-02-2007 12:43 AM

Re: AA 3 handed - is this standard? awful?
 
yeah - so thats what happened i spiked my gutter to the nuts and he pushed river and his 333 was no good. i think i would've been able to fold a brick river, so i think turn push may not be best - still not sure on the flop, but i trust the experts.


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