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jeffraider 04-30-2007 12:23 AM

25NL - 100BBs to call the river
 
I've only been at the table a few hands but villain has played one small pot that seemed pretty standard, no other reads.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

Button ($48.15)
SB ($22.60)
BB ($11.90)
UTG ($40.90)
Hero ($48.60)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.25, Hero calls $0.25, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $1.5</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $1.25, UTG calls $1.25, Hero calls $1.25.

Flop: ($6.10) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4</font>, Button folds, BB folds, UTG calls $4.

Turn: ($14.10) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $9.5</font>, UTG calls $9.50.

River: ($33.10) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $25.9 (All-In)</font>

jeffraider 04-30-2007 12:27 AM

Re: 25NL - 100BBs to call the river
 
D'oh forgot his river chat after he pushed. Don't recall any special timing on the river before the shove.

UTG said, "A"
BB said, "doubt it"
UTG said, "i mean"
UTG said, "a good luck to you"
BB said, "lol"
UTG said, "tough call, I think you should call!"

evazan 04-30-2007 12:34 AM

Re: 25NL - 100BBs to call the river
 
First, either fold or raise pre-flop. I prefer a fold.

This may be nitty of me but I would probably cringe and fold. Villains line looks like a full house or a missed club draw. With no reads I'd be more inclined to put him on what he is representing.

bsheck 04-30-2007 12:38 AM

Re: 25NL - 100BBs to call the river
 
Fold preflop. Your hand is a piece of crap, and once the button raises you definitely should fold for $1.25 more and having to play out of position the rest of the hand.

The river is a fold also. He probably doesn't have an A, though I suppose he could've had A5 or the NFD. I think he checks an A though, since you showed strength twice. I think he likely has a boat. You might think he would raise a flopped set on that board, but a lot of people get too cute with strong hands. I suppose 33 is also possible. But I don't think you're up against an A enough times to call.

jeffraider 04-30-2007 12:56 AM

Re: 25NL - 100BBs to call the river
 
Fold after the button raises PF? No way! I've got position on the other two guys and decent relative position on the button. On a flop I like it checks to him and he bets I get to see the whole picture by the time it's back to me.

Genz 04-30-2007 01:04 AM

Re: 25NL - 100BBs to call the river
 
I don't even limp this suited trash in the first place unless I'm on the button and there's a huge fish in the hand.

I bet more on the turn. 10 or 11.

River sux. He played his hand like many play their sets or 2pairs: slowplay to the river, then push. Since the board paired and you have only a one card straight, I think you have to fold here.

MM_red33 04-30-2007 01:07 AM

Re: 25NL - 100BBs to call the river
 
id call. im betting he has an overpair maybe a set. if he did have a boat wouldnt he bet more for value at the river? Flush draw missed so what would call him? 88-66 maybe. maybe even a 5 giving im a set.

KEW 04-30-2007 01:12 AM

Re: 25NL - 100BBs to call the river
 
PF is terrible 63 is trash even sooted...With 2 players left to act you will find yourself facing a raise and playing a weak drawing hand OOP far to often to be profitable..OR the raise will be large enough to fold your hand...ISO raising weak limpers is a major +EV Shorthanded poker...

After calling PF and the PFer on your left C/R the flop..You flopped the nutz let the PFer bet and trap the other 2 in for a bet..River bites and I fold..Absent a read you will not see a lone A or busted draw enough to be +EV..


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