400nl...180bb deep, big bluff
 

Villain is 22/17/2.6
He is a regular and pretty good IMO. Definately a pretty big winner at 200nl and 400nl.

My image is pretty good. I have been playing TAG/LAG depending on situations. There is a huge fish at the table and I have shown down good hands everytime I have raised postflop. I am 95% sure villain has AQ, KK or AA and not a set.

Preflop may be a bit questionable but we are deep, he made a smaller r/r, and I think I can outplay villain sometimes on the right board if I don't flop big.

Spew or good bluff? I was planning to push any non K or A turn.


Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $1213.60
BB: $830
UTG: $670
MP: $420.50
<font color="black">Hero (CO): $728.90</font>
BTN: $740.20

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $14</font>, BTN folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $46</font>, BB folds, Hero calls $32

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($96) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $75</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $210</font>, SB calls $135

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($516) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets all-in for $472.90</font>
Villain???????????????
Pot Size: $988.90

Re: 400nl...180bb deep, big bluff
 

well, whats to say. this is very situational and with your read/image this is a good time to try this. sometimes villain might make a heroic call with AA/KK (especially with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]). he is not folding QQ/1010 or a flush.

and uhm, if he calls you can always claim its good for metagame reasons [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Re: 400nl...180bb deep, big bluff
 

Meh, I think this works sometimes, but generally I think it's very spewy, and PF is awful IMO. Why are you sure he doesn't have a set? I would often play a set this way if I were villian. Unless you play with this guy a ton this is pretty gross.

Re: 400nl...180bb deep, big bluff
 

if villian is thinking and capable of solid folds then this is great

if you DON'T SPECIFICALLY KNOW THAT then this is bad

Re: 400nl...180bb deep, big bluff
 

Turn on 4 color decks.

Re: 400nl...180bb deep, big bluff
 

I like it.

Re: 400nl...180bb deep, big bluff
 

almost certainly +ev.

Re: 400nl...180bb deep, big bluff
 

hands like this make me happy for future of online poker. i can see ill always be able to move down to 2-4 and make at least 300 an hour without thinking. this is just awful. i dont understand one bit of it. whoever says they like is needs to re-eval their game. this is pure spew, theres nothing else to call it. sorry for being harsh but no1 else is stepping up. ugh.

Re: 400nl...180bb deep, big bluff
 

you underestimate how much people will fold here.

Re: 400nl...180bb deep, big bluff
 

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hands like this make me happy for future of online poker. i can see ill always be able to move down to 2-4 and make at least 300 an hour without thinking. this is just awful. i dont understand one bit of it. whoever says they like is needs to re-eval their game. this is pure spew, theres nothing else to call it. sorry for being harsh but no1 else is stepping up. ugh.

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i don't take it as harsh at all. i posted it because i don't want to be making plays like this a bunch in the future if it isn't a good play.

i think vs this particular villain it is better than you realize. i really think this guy will make a big laydown if he feels like he is beat. i also think the spade on the turn increased my fold equity since a big combo draw is definately part of my range. pushing a non spade turn though i do think would probably be very spewey.

fwiw i have played w/ villain alot at 400nl and i think he will give this alot of respect because i don't think he's ever seen me run a big bluff this deep because i rarely do it. 98% of the time i show up here w/ a hand that has AA crushed.

i also wouldn't have done this vs anyone else at the that table besides him given all the same circumstances. anyway those are my thoughts but i do understand your side of it because a few other people told me it was horrible as well including aba so who am i to argue w/ him.

fwiw he ran his clock down and folded what i assumed to be a big hand like KK or AA.