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SkyyCaptain 04-23-2007 11:13 PM

Bet out and peeved.
 
Villain has seen me CBet often, and has a rediculous penchant for limping with pretty much anything, unfortunately he can afford to make this raise and I probably can't afford to call it. Who folds this from SB, who completes, who raises? As played, what's my grade?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (9 handed) internettexasholdem.com

MP1 (t4752)
MP2 (t2128)
MP3 (t5062)
CO (t4631)
Button (t2160)
SkyyCaptain (t2908)
BB (t3665)
UTG (t4600)
UTG+1 (t875)

Preflop: SkyyCaptain is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, MP3 calls t150, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SkyyCaptain raises to t600</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 calls t450.

Flop: (t1350) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SkyyCaptain bets t750</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises to t4462</font>, SkyyCaptain folds.

Final Pot: t6562

Zizz 04-23-2007 11:18 PM

Re: Bet out and peeved.
 
Hey Sky,

Is this the type of guy to limp-call raise frequently or does he like to limp a lot and fold to raises? I "might" raise if there is a good chance he will fold preflop just to pick up the loose change. But the majority time I will just complete with QJo there. But as played, yea I take a stab at flop and I'm folding to the raise.

SkyyCaptain 04-24-2007 12:07 AM

Re: Bet out and peeved.
 
Thanks much, he's a limp caller, and I should have not raised as a result. If I had been smarter i'd have thought about this BEFORE you mentioned it. THanks tho.

Bakes 04-24-2007 12:14 AM

Re: Bet out and peeved.
 
pf is bad and flop bet/fold is lol considering how you have played this hand. just check preflop, and i'd probably open shove the flop once you get there. what else can you do?

SkyyCaptain 04-24-2007 12:17 AM

Re: Bet out and peeved.
 
I'm not sure I get what you're recommending,

Bakes 04-24-2007 12:24 AM

Re: Bet out and peeved.
 
1. dont raise preflop, i would need a v good read to do so

2. dont bet fold the flop, you have two overs and a gutter. your turning your hand into 72o

3. if i did raise preflop i would open shove this flop, you have no FE if you c/r all in, and if i raise preflop with QJo in this spot its not to c/f a T82 flop.

SkyyCaptain 04-24-2007 12:43 AM

Re: Bet out and peeved.
 
Well thanks but don't you think the stacks are bit large (to the pot) for an all in? the 10 outer is a little weak to pull off a bluff like this at this stake I think

This is a microstakes game where an AT will probably call

Bakes 04-24-2007 01:05 AM

Re: Bet out and peeved.
 
AT is never folding, u just want to fold out small pairs/2nd pair, maybe he folds a draw or something but he never has JJ+ here and thats good enough for me.

shove is an overbet, and its not the best move, but as played i think its the least sucky of your options.

Zychion 04-24-2007 01:16 AM

Re: Bet out and peeved.
 
I'd have completed looking for a cheap draw, check-call a smallish bet on this flop, easy fold on a blank turn and I still have a stack to play with. I never want to inflate the pot OOP with a drawing hand unless I'm sure villain can fold to aggression with a one pair type hand. What's the buyin here? If it's a micro game your FE is miniscule, therefore betting/shoving this flop is kinda spewy. As played I'm defintely calling with 50% of my stack invested and likely outs to win. I'd rather gambool here than play with a crippled stack.


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