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raze 04-23-2007 10:29 PM

200NL | Top 2, mono board, he shoves !!!
 
Very loose site. 8-handed. No reads on this individual, but as a general rule these guys make a lot of mistakes.


2 limps, I raise AK to $15, 2 cold-calls, blinds fold, one call from a limper.

$200 eff stack.

($65) Flop: A-K-J all spades. I lead for $48, next guy shoves his $500... (my stack was 200), folded to me ?!?!

raze 04-24-2007 11:20 AM

Re: 200NL | Top 2, mono board, he shoves !!!
 
cliff notes: I raise AK, villain calls 7x raise, then shoves As-Ks-Js flop.

2218 04-24-2007 11:49 AM

Re: 200NL | Top 2, mono board, he shoves !!!
 
You can't fold here. If these guys make tons of mistakes, you'll see AJ/KJ and maybe even some A's (AQ/AT often enough). Sucks if he's got QT, but you've got too much invested.

luckybacon 04-24-2007 11:53 AM

Re: 200NL | Top 2, mono board, he shoves !!!
 
this being full ring might be a fold

All_Inn_Aces 04-24-2007 12:04 PM

Re: 200NL | Top 2, mono board, he shoves !!!
 
2-1 odds and you can hit an A or K to suck out on the guy (if he has flush youve got 4 outs out of 45 twice) 20% equity there, if 13% if his donkalicious bad plays then youre set and if they play as bad as you say you gotta call.

luckybacon 04-24-2007 12:05 PM

Re: 200NL | Top 2, mono board, he shoves !!!
 
its full ring though! arent everyone nits in full ring?

raze 04-24-2007 12:07 PM

Re: 200NL | Top 2, mono board, he shoves !!!
 
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its full ring though! arent everyone nits in full ring?

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lol, not at this table. Please ignore the fact that it's full ring.

2218 04-24-2007 12:10 PM

Re: 200NL | Top 2, mono board, he shoves !!!
 
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its full ring though! arent everyone nits in full ring?

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Full ring? All spades? Ugh... I gotta start paying more attention. Maybe it is a fold... But then I don't know what to think about the CB. CB'ing 1/4 of a buyin and folding to a push with top two against these kinds of players is just odd.

raze 04-24-2007 12:13 PM

Re: 200NL | Top 2, mono board, he shoves !!!
 
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CB'ing 1/4 of a buyin and folding to a push with top two against these kinds of players is just odd.

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This is what I'm getting at. What kind of hands shove here?

2218 04-24-2007 12:18 PM

Re: 200NL | Top 2, mono board, he shoves !!!
 
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CB'ing 1/4 of a buyin and folding to a push with top two against these kinds of players is just odd.

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This is what I'm getting at. What kind of hands shove here?

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Too many that could have you seriously crushed, that's for sure. I think as played it's a fold, I guess. I'm wondering if there are better lines. Like how often are they bluffing the flop if you show weakness?


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