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MikeyPatriot 04-22-2007 07:56 PM

Weird PF situation with QQ
 
UTG is probably bad. He overlimped/called with A7s and paid me off on two streets with my AJ on an A high flop. MP is MuckeDBoy who I have at 18/11/2 over 440 hands. No notes on him.

Hero has been playing nitty over the past few days, but MuckeD could have me anywhere from 15/13 to 18/16.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($106)
Hero ($161.60)
Button ($111.40)
SB ($120)
BB ($122.05)
UTG ($198.95)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls $1, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $18</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG calls $17, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $49</font>, Hero <font color="blue"> reacts the same way as he did watching Cro Cop get KTFO</font>

Speedlimits 04-22-2007 08:00 PM

Re: Weird PF situation with QQ
 
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UTG is probably bad. He overlimped/called with A7s and paid me off on two streets with my AJ on an A high flop. MP is MuckeDBoy who I have at 18/11/2 over 440 hands. No notes on him.

Hero has been playing nitty over the past few days, but MuckeD could have me anywhere from 15/13 to 18/16.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($106)
Hero ($161.60)
Button ($111.40)
SB ($120)
BB ($122.05)
UTG ($198.95)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls $1, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $18</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG calls $17, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $49</font>, Hero <font color="blue"> reacts the same way as he did watching Cro Cop get KTFO</font>

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fold

Fistdantilus 04-22-2007 08:26 PM

Re: Weird PF situation with QQ
 
MuckedBoy is a straightforward multitabling nit. He doesn't seem to change his play based on his opponent, and there is very little creativity in his play. His range here is QQ+. Easy fold.

spivey 04-22-2007 08:29 PM

Re: Weird PF situation with QQ
 
Fold.

Massimo 04-22-2007 08:36 PM

Re: Weird PF situation with QQ
 
put 1000 dollars more on the table and see if he folds his AA.

Jigsaws 04-22-2007 08:40 PM

Re: Weird PF situation with QQ
 
MuckedBoy is soooo bad. I don't mind a shove too much against him. He definitely shows up with AK here. In fact, he 5-bet shoved over my cold 4-bet with AK once.

aislephive 04-22-2007 08:40 PM

Re: Weird PF situation with QQ
 
Fold here, looks like MP doesn't want you and UTG to see a flop without putting your stack in. He seems very nitty, so unless you have history I think you have fold.

The White Rabbit 04-22-2007 08:46 PM

Re: Weird PF situation with QQ
 
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MuckedBoy is soooo bad. I don't mind a shove too much against him. He definitely shows up with AK here. In fact, he 5-bet shoved over my cold 4-bet with AK once.

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Pretty standard? (and wtf do you mean by a "cold 4-bet"?)

luckybacon 04-22-2007 09:18 PM

Re: Weird PF situation with QQ
 
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MuckedBoy is soooo bad. I don't mind a shove too much against him. He definitely shows up with AK here. In fact, he 5-bet shoved over my cold 4-bet with AK once.

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Pretty standard? (and wtf do you mean by a "cold 4-bet"?)

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utg raises utg+1 3bets co 4bets

cbloom 04-22-2007 11:16 PM

Re: Weird PF situation with QQ
 
LOL Mikey I saw this hand and when you took so long I knew you had QQ and I knew you were folding it [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Pretty easy fold IMHO. If MP was a genius he would know he could do this with a wide range and you'd fold and UTG was dead money, but I'm sure MP wasn't doing that. AK is the worst thing he can have and that's not a good thing.

(ps. contrary to a previous poster, I believe AK is actually a great 4-bet by MP here, and does not edge you towards a call significantly)


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