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G_Dollaz 04-20-2007 02:21 AM

turned straight/ nut flush draw and we\'re in a lot of trouble....
 
Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Hold'em Cash Game
$2/$4 Blinds
5 Players
LegoPoker HH Converter

<font color="black">SHEKE: $166.30</font>
<font color="black">G_Dollaz: $433.85</font>
24_Bauer_24: $408.90
Da Hit Dogg: $399.20
<font color="black">fivetenatrad: $892.75</font>

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> G_Dollaz is dealt 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 Players)
24_Bauer_24 folds, Da Hit Dogg folds, fivetenatrad raises to $8, SHEKE calls $6, G_Dollaz calls $4

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($24) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SHEKE checks, G_Dollaz checks, fivetenatrad checks

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($24) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SHEKE bets $14, G_Dollaz raises to $44, fivetenatrad raises to $164


what's the best way to proceed here.... villian is like 37/12, so he's not great, but he's not completely incompetent either. I'm pretty sure absolute best case scenario is 44, is there anything to do but call here and c/f unimproved, or are we going broke here everytime without improving?

soda 04-20-2007 02:27 AM

Re: turned straight/ nut flush draw and we\'re in a lot of trouble....
 
Wow, I'm finding it hard not doing anything but pushing here.

Others?

soda

ArturiusX 04-20-2007 02:31 AM

Re: turned straight/ nut flush draw and we\'re in a lot of trouble....
 
Its obvious to tell whos running bad sometimes.

Moonshine 04-20-2007 02:38 AM

Re: turned straight/ nut flush draw and we\'re in a lot of trouble....
 
he couldn't have checked behind a set on the flop? he's pretty much committed to the pot so we dont really have to worry about folding out a hand we beat with a shove...are we really putting him directly on 67 here?

you're cursed, by the way

Flatlanman3 04-20-2007 03:20 AM

Re: turned straight/ nut flush draw and we\'re in a lot of trouble....
 
if ur cursed that bad and getting cooolered right and left, smooth calling the turn is an option.....

ddubois 04-20-2007 03:38 AM

Re: turned straight/ nut flush draw and we\'re in a lot of trouble....
 
Obviously call, spike the 3h, get shown 6h7h.

G_Dollaz 04-20-2007 04:24 AM

Re: turned straight/ nut flush draw and we\'re in a lot of trouble....
 
[ QUOTE ]
Its obvious to tell whos running bad sometimes.

[/ QUOTE ]


yeah, this was another awesome hand w/ the wheel today....

FullTiltPoker Game #2244865583: Table Simmons (6 max) - $2/$4 - No Limit Hold'em - 19:39:26 ET - 2007/04/19
Seat 1: Brookmarin ($115.60)
Seat 2: Teni T ($57.70)
Seat 3: agent007 ($750.45)
Seat 4: twostrok ($748.05)
Seat 5: Toine_baby ($408.30)
Seat 6: SweetOldBroad ($580.30)
twostrok posts the small blind of $2
Toine_baby posts the big blind of $4
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Toine_baby [Ah 3s]
SweetOldBroad folds
Brookmarin calls $4
Teni T folds
agent007 calls $4
twostrok calls $2
Toine_baby checks
*** FLOP *** [4s 2h 5c]
twostrok checks
Toine_baby bets $8
Brookmarin calls $8
agent007 folds
twostrok calls $8
*** TURN *** [4s 2h 5c] [Ac]
twostrok checks
Toine_baby bets $20
Brookmarin calls $20
twostrok calls $20
*** RIVER *** [4s 2h 5c Ac] [3d]
twostrok has 15 seconds left to act
twostrok bets $100
Toine_baby folds
Toine_baby adds $23.70
Brookmarin has 15 seconds left to act
Brookmarin calls $83.60, and is all in
Uncalled bet of $16.40 returned to twostrok
*** SHOW DOWN ***
twostrok shows [Jh 6h] (a straight, Six high)
Brookmarin mucks
twostrok wins the pot ($264.20) with a straight, Six high
Brookmarin is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $267.20 | Rake $3
Board: [4s 2h 5c Ac 3d]
Seat 1: Brookmarin mucked [4d As] - a straight, Five high
Seat 2: Teni T didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: agent007 (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 4: twostrok (small blind) showed [Jh 6h] and won ($264.20) with a straight, Six high
Seat 5: Toine_baby (big blind) folded on the River
Seat 6: SweetOldBroad didn't bet (folded)

billyjex 04-20-2007 07:29 AM

Re: turned straight/ nut flush draw and we\'re in a lot of trouble....
 
fold he has 64

j/k u know the answer obv ldo

runnerunner 04-20-2007 09:49 AM

Re: turned straight/ nut flush draw and we\'re in a lot of trouble....
 
If you can't get your money in on the turn with the 3rd nuts and the nut redraw on this board vs. a 37/12, you should consider giving up poker or give up calling raises with A2. If he shows you 67, then you go broke. You only have 35BB left. You need to be deeper to fold here.

MTBlue 04-20-2007 11:13 AM

Re: turned straight/ nut flush draw and we\'re in a lot of trouble....
 
Just go allin worse case scenario is 20% equity and you beat every other hand. Put him on 54 or 43.


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