Middle set on dry board - How often do you not shove here?
 

Obviously, pre-flop raise and flop raise to 4.5 are standard.

Will you ever just call villians raise to 10 on the flop?

When I have played at higher stakes in the past, it is more common to just call this type raise since villian is likely to have AA/KK(2 outer) or a range of nothing, and just be playing back at me.

However, just calling this flop sucks, if villian would play an overpair 88-qq like this on the flop, since the turn could be an action killing overcard. But how many Micro-stakes players will actually play a medium overpair like this?

How often will you be shoving or calling?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

BB ($37.80)
UTG ($9.26)
MP ($15.10)
sdunsmb ($44.51)
Button ($14.90)
SB ($23.99)

Preflop: sdunsmb is CO with 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif.
2 folds</font>, sdunsmb raises to $1</font>, 1 fold</font>, SB calls $0.90, BB calls $0.75.

Flop: ($3) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif (3 players)</font>
SB bets $1.5</font>, BB folds, sdunsmb raises to $4.5</font>, SB raises to $10</font>,

Re: Middle set on dry board - How often do you not shove here?
 

Always shove this flop! Only hand that beats you is 77!

Villain donk-bets into two people so he prob had a big hand. Go ahead and shove and hope villain calls you. He will call with any overpair, set, maybe some weird two pair.

You don't want to call this flop. With 3 players in the pot you don' want to see some straight/flush possibilities. Like you said, an action killing Ace/King will slow villain down when he has 88-QQ.

Re: Middle set on dry board - How often do you not shove here?
 

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Always shove this flop! Only hand that beats you is 77!

Villain donk-bets into two people so he prob had a big hand. Go ahead and shove and hope villain calls you. He will call with any overpair, set, maybe some weird two pair.

You don't want to call this flop. With 3 players in the pot you don' want to see some straight/flush possibilities. Like you said, an action killing Ace/King will slow villain down when he has 88-QQ.

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- There are two players in the pot.

- Do you really think many opponents will play 8-qq like this?

- How often do you think villian is playing back at me with nothing?

Re: Middle set on dry board - How often do you not shove here?
 

No, if a micro player puts in a $10 reraise i've never seen anyone lay a hand down after doing that. pushhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Re: Middle set on dry board - How often do you not shove here?
 

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- There are two players in the pot.

- Do you really think many opponents will play 8-qq like this?

- How often do you think villian is playing back at me with nothing?

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1) so?
2) absolutely, more likely A7
3) almost never

Re: Middle set on dry board - How often do you not shove here?
 

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- There are two players in the pot.

- Do you really think many opponents will play 8-qq like this?

- How often do you think villian is playing back at me with nothing?

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1) so?
2) absolutely, more likely A7
3) almost never

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Re: Middle set on dry board - How often do you not shove here?
 

I shove here almost always w/o reads and expect to be called

Re: Middle set on dry board - How often do you not shove here?
 

ughh i call and let him shove for me on turn since he will be leading first...in mean time do the time stall happy dance to cornfuse him