100 NL TPTK on wet board
 

Opponent is 28/16 over 532 hands, 1ish pf af, flop af 4, turn af 4. we've never really tangled much and i don't have much history w/ him but he can be tricky.

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Hero ($121.50)
Button ($92.50)
SB ($159.85)
BB ($93.30)
UTG ($101.70)
MP ($65.65)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls $1, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $5</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls $4.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls $4.

Flop: ($16) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $12</font>, SB calls $12, UTG folds.

Turn: ($40) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $30.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $142.85</font>, Hero ????

Thoughts on the hand and turn decision?

Re: 100 NL TPTK on wet board
 

Looks well played. I think I let this go. Your showing huge strength and villian probably thinks your married to hand and wants a call here. Your crushed imo.

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Thoughts on the hand and turn decision?

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Your turn bet basically forces him to push if he wants to go with his hand.

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Thoughts on the hand and turn decision?

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Your turn bet basically forces him to push if he wants to go with his hand.

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elaborating on this seems like it could be interesting

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Thoughts on the hand and turn decision?

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Your turn bet basically forces him to push if he wants to go with his hand.

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elaborating on this seems like it could be interesting

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actually that statement is very interesting to me b/c during this hand i figured him to be strongly biased towards having a draw and made the turn bet to almost induce a shove from draws but wasn't really sure if that was good since i didn't have that strong of a read on him.

a reasonable range i don't want to see:

JJ,33,AdQd,AdTd,Ad8d,Ad3d,KJs,QdTd,QsTs,KJo

i need .3386 to call and i am .2634 against that range. however, even though this player is capable of being tricky i thought for sure there would be a rather large bias of him calling very strong draws since there was a player behind him left to act and can't expect him to call here w/ big made hands very often. i thought he was also capable of check/shoving turn w/ basically any big draw he had on the flop.

taking out a combo of JJ and 33 and also KJo and adding in T9s as part of his big draw/bluffing range i have .4659 so it's a snap call basically

JcJs,JhJs,3c3d,3c3h,AdQd,AdTd,Ad8d,Ad3d,KJs,QdTd,Q sTs,T9s

just wanted input basically of where he probably is

i definitely agree w/ KLJ that elaborating on your statement could get interesting

Re: 100 NL TPTK on wet board
 

Baluga theorem..

"Looks well played. I think I let this go. Your showing huge strength and villian probably thinks your married to hand and wants a call here. Your crushed imo."

I agree with that I just don't think your ahead here. Sucks...

Re: 100 NL TPTK on wet board
 

uhhh... 28/16 limp/calls utg, the only thing that beats us is 33, maaaaybe KJ.. but ud expect both to be a little more aggressive on that flop seing as though its so drawy. i think its much more likely that he has a big draw here (QTs being most likely). so id snap call and feel happy about it.

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uhhh... 28/16 limp/calls utg, the only thing that beats us is 33, maaaaybe KJ.. but ud expect both to be a little more aggressive on that flop seing as though its so drawy. i think its much more likely that he has a big draw here (QTs being most likely). so id snap call and feel happy about it.

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I agree...KK would reraise pre, JJ would likely do the same...88 shouldn't even still be around on turn...logically KJ should raise turn cuz it doesn't like the flush draw...i think this is a diamond draw trying to push him off.

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Looks well played. I think I let this go. Your showing huge strength and villian probably thinks your married to hand and wants a call here. Your crushed imo.

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Pretty much agree with this.

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Looks well played. I think I let this go. Your showing huge strength and villian probably thinks your married to hand and wants a call here. Your crushed imo.

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Pretty much agree with this.

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if ur gunna say we're beat here... can u plz put him on a hand? the only hands in his range that are ahead of us here are 33/KJ, and i doubt they would of c/c on such a scary flop