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duh 04-17-2007 11:05 PM

Overpair against Sleepy80. 600NL
 
For those of you who don't know, he is pretty ABC. Nittish.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $6 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">MP ($630)</font>
CO ($2987.65)
Button ($360)
SB ($840.35)
BB ($561)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($591)</font>

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $24</font>, MP calls $24, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB calls $18.

Flop: ($75) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $55</font>, MP calls $55, BB folds.

Turn: ($185) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Hero does what and why?

sauce123 04-18-2007 12:27 AM

Re: Overpair against Sleepy80. 600NL
 
bet/3-bet usually, and maybe bet/fold is you can see inside his soul.

sleepy is such a godamn nit. BTW duh, who are you on Stars 3/6 (im sauce123... obv)... pm if you want.. or if you dont remain cloaked in anonymity.

PatInTheHat 04-18-2007 12:35 AM

Re: Overpair against Sleepy80. 600NL
 
If hes really nitty I probably would bet fold.

psuasskicker 04-18-2007 12:40 AM

Re: Overpair against Sleepy80. 600NL
 
How can a bet amount be such that it allows a 3b here?

Sucks to be you giving a free card if he's spade drawing. He's probably either really thin or way ahead with an obvious heavy weight toward the former. I give the option of a freebie cause if he takes it he's probably trying to play pot control and may call a river bet but would fold to your turn bet. He bets, I get it in and count on picking up the pot a large portion of the time.

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hoyasaxa 04-18-2007 12:40 AM

Re: Overpair against Sleepy80. 600NL
 
fluuuuuuush draw.......

TalentedTom 04-18-2007 01:03 AM

Re: Overpair against Sleepy80. 600NL
 
Against sleepy I bet/fold with a pinch of check/evaluate

TalentedTom 04-18-2007 01:04 AM

Re: Overpair against Sleepy80. 600NL
 
I do enjoy checking here though

NOSUP4U 04-18-2007 01:37 AM

Re: Overpair against Sleepy80. 600NL
 
He was the cause of an $8K swing for me a few weeks ago. (mmm transfered responsibility...) So I vote for whatever stacks him. (I think I bet/get it in more often than not here)

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john kane 04-22-2007 10:16 AM

Re: Overpair against Sleepy80. 600NL
 
i think this is an interesting hand, anyone got any further views on this.

decisions like this completely shape how people view your postflop style.

with stacks this deep i go for pot control. i check the turn with the intention of calling his bet. i check again on the river and evaluate his bet size on the river and expect to fold to his river bet, but i hope he checks.

this shows the overwhelming power of position imo.

john kane 04-22-2007 10:20 AM

Re: Overpair against Sleepy80. 600NL
 
i just voted, lol, once again i am in the massive minority.

i think any decent player should would use his position on the turn here to represent a flopped set, having read you for an overpair given you've bet out again on the turn.

i remember one of my regular opponents saying to me he thought i was pretty [censored], but my usage of floating was very good. i think MP here could call with any two cards given the number of scare cards which would come on turn, given he can rep the flopped set, given the stacks are normal, pretty deep relatively given only $24 in pf.

hopefully you do this with any two cards, show your float and good play and then ch-ching to getting paid off and confusing your opponents.


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