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WichitaDM 04-16-2007 01:35 AM

Is not believing in gay rights biggoted?
 
So i just got into a huge fight with my mother over gay rights. Basically she is a typical conservative, and i of course am not. She believes that allowing gays to marry would decrease family values in the Us, and therefore ruin the society fabric of a "family". I told her that adding a title and a few rights (such as tax benefits and insurance sharing for couples) would not have an impact at all on straight families. The same number of people will be gay, regardless. I proceeded to say that i felt that not believing in equal rights for gays and straight couples was bigotted. Of course she was angry and hung up on me. Thoughts?

wisehandpoker 04-16-2007 01:40 AM

Re: Is not believing in gay rights biggoted?
 
I agree with you, but it's hard for someone whose beliefs are as ingrained as hers likely are to see things that way. Dod you try pointing out that the family values she spoke of don't really exist in the universal sense in 51% divorce rate-America?

Bork 04-16-2007 01:46 AM

Re: Is not believing in gay rights biggoted?
 
Yeah, probably.

SammyKid11 04-16-2007 01:49 AM

Re: Is not believing in gay rights biggoted?
 
Agreed...keep bringing the fight. Stay in people's faces. It causes strife, but it ultimately changes some minds. Force people to think about things they'd rather ignore.

kipin 04-16-2007 01:49 AM

Re: Is not believing in gay rights biggoted?
 
I think you should call her up tomorrow and tell her you are gay and see how she reacts.

WichitaDM 04-16-2007 01:50 AM

Re: Is not believing in gay rights biggoted?
 
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I think you should call her up tomorrow and tell her you are gay and see how she reacts.

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Im pretty sure this would result in a complete breakdown. Telling them i played poker for a living was bad enough. If i was gay that converstion would be a complete disaster lol...

pergesu 04-16-2007 01:50 AM

Re: Is not believing in gay rights biggoted?
 
People who claim that allowing gay marriage would decrease family values are full of crap. If anything, gay families may have stronger family values on average. A couple that decides to stick it out and raise a child, despite all the current prejudice, is going to be able to teach their children acceptance and resolve that a large number of parents can't.

Over 50% of marriages end in divorce right now. I don't think gay people are going to do much damage to family values.

Of course not believing in gay rights is bigoted.

ed8383 04-16-2007 01:51 AM

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Agreed...keep bringing the fight. Stay in people's faces. It causes strife, but it ultimately changes some minds. Force people to think about things they'd rather ignore.

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I can only hope you are not talking about the fight for some butt pirates to marry each other.

leehrat 04-16-2007 02:12 AM

Re: Is not believing in gay rights biggoted?
 
How many openly gay posters are there on 2+2?

Stoneflip 04-16-2007 02:12 AM

Re: Is not believing in gay rights biggoted?
 
So you want her to be non-judgemental about the sex lives of others while you are being judgemental about her values?? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]


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