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CPHoya 04-12-2007 06:56 PM

25NL 2 Pair Calldown...
 
Villain is a fairly tight, aggressive player, though a loser over slightly less than 200 hands. That's all I really know, but I do respect the player. EDIT: I have him at 21/6/5.5 (obvious sample size weirdness).

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">Hero ($32.60)</font>
MP2 ($16.45)
CO ($25)
Button ($19.40)
SB ($25.35)
BB ($45.55)
<font color="#C00000">UTG ($42.05)</font>

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.25, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, UTG calls $0.75.

Flop: ($2.35) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1.75</font>, UTG calls $1.75.

Turn: ($5.85) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4</font>, UTG calls $4.

River: ($13.85) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $12</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $40.3 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls $13.85 (All-In).

Final Pot: $80

Good call, sloppy call?

hoyasaxa 04-12-2007 07:08 PM

Re: 25NL 2 Pair Calldown...
 
something does not feel right about this hand.

With a bet like that on the river I think i would just call. not much we beat that in villains calling range.

its not a terrible call, but i think you put yourself in that situation with the river raise.

BevillTheDevil 04-12-2007 07:13 PM

Re: 25NL 2 Pair Calldown...
 
i just call villian's river bet here...sounds like your read on him he is a decent TAG, so his UTG limp screams a low PP or SC. He could be limpin A2s-A5s (less likely IMO) but if hes decent hes probably folding to your flop/turn bet with those holdings. Some PA stats would be nice but if hes a decent TAG i think he has 22-55 here alot.

CPHoya 04-12-2007 07:15 PM

Re: 25NL 2 Pair Calldown...
 
Sorry, added the stats in an edit.

jmgambler 04-12-2007 07:18 PM

Re: 25NL 2 Pair Calldown...
 
Every street, villain has checked call, NOW he bets a "$5 I want money for my hand" bet?.... I am honestly tempted to call here. I rarely raise here in situations like this, (the river bringing a K is the only way I might consider it, and even then...) as they either fold (no benefit) or they are reraising.

CPHoya 04-12-2007 07:29 PM

Re: 25NL 2 Pair Calldown...
 
I realize this isn't a very exciting hand, so I'll just post the results now. The hand included a little chit-chat, motivated by a previous small pot I took down. On the river, after my raise, villain said "pay me off." I thought for a while and made the call. The table chat didn't motivate the call, but I felt like he was making a move.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">Hero ($32.60)</font>
MP2 ($16.45)
CO ($25)
Button ($19.40)
SB ($25.35)
BB ($45.55)
<font color="#C00000">UTG ($42.05)</font>

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.25, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, UTG calls $0.75.

Flop: ($2.35) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1.75</font>, UTG calls $1.75.

Turn: ($5.85) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4</font>, UTG calls $4.

River: ($13.85) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $12</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $40.3 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls $13.85 (All-In).

Final Pot: $80

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
UTG has Ks Tc (one pair, kings).
Hero has Ad Kc (two pair, aces and kings).
Outcome: Hero wins $65.55. UTG wins $14.45. </font>

When I made the call I knew it was probably a "bad call," but I was sure I was right this time.

Guess I gained some SklanskyBux, lost a stack of G$.

hoyasaxa 04-12-2007 07:41 PM

Re: 25NL 2 Pair Calldown...
 
btw do u actually go to gtown?

CPHoya 04-12-2007 07:44 PM

Re: 25NL 2 Pair Calldown...
 
I'm a 2L at the law school. Went to Cal Poly SLO in undergrad. I noticed your tag too. Go Hoyas!

hoyasaxa 04-12-2007 08:18 PM

Re: 25NL 2 Pair Calldown...
 
SFS 09

SirFelixCat 04-12-2007 08:57 PM

Re: 25NL 2 Pair Calldown...
 
While i don't hate your river raise, I hate putting myself in these positions as he very well could have 33,44, or 55 here and played it differently.

I would have just called the river and made a note. I don't mind losing a little possible value to:

1)Get valueable info on an unorthodox play from a villain I tend to respect

2)Keep myself out of "ugh" situations.

It ended up working out for you, but still, I think I prefer just calling the river.


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