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slimon 04-11-2007 05:58 PM

$27turbo: TPWK what to do?
 
PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t50 (7 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t1570)
UTG+1 (t2815)
MP1 (t1250)
CO (t3855)
Button (t660)
Hero (t1375)
BB (t1975)

Preflop: Hero is in SB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, MP1 calls t50, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, Hero calls t25, BB checks

Flop: (t150) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="red">MP1 bets t150</font>, Hero calls t150, <font color="gray">BB folds</font>

Turn: (t450) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP1 checks

River: (t450) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP1 checks

What's the best move to do on the flop? I thought the best move would just be c/c the flop to keep the pot small but I thought about leading. Is turn and river standard or would you value bet the river if it wasn't such a dangerous card.

JMills109 04-11-2007 06:17 PM

Re: $27turbo: TPWK what to do?
 
Fold PF. It solves your problems, and avoids such situations where you are playing a marginal hand OOP

morny 04-11-2007 06:23 PM

Re: $27turbo: TPWK what to do?
 
I think you played it grand except im defo value betting that river as i dont think the King would help him. If he had an ace im sure hes betting that turn after you checked again.

Schmitty 87 04-11-2007 06:23 PM

Re: $27turbo: TPWK what to do?
 
Ya fold preflop is best unless MP1 is a huge donk.

As played, your line is fine. I might bet 150-200 on this river, and I would definitely do that on safe rivers.

PTB 04-11-2007 06:25 PM

Re: $27turbo: TPWK what to do?
 
fold pf
probably fold on the flop because if we call and dont improve he will probably bet again and we will be forced to fold because of our bad kicker

JayTee 04-11-2007 06:31 PM

Re: $27turbo: TPWK what to do?
 
I don't see any good reason to bet river. Check/call seems most reasonable. Anyone care to explain. What is he paying you with.

austrian 04-11-2007 06:37 PM

Re: $27turbo: TPWK what to do?
 
Fold Preflop.
I like a fold on the flop as well.No need to play such a big pot oop when u dont really know where u stand yet.

Schmitty 87 04-11-2007 06:42 PM

Re: $27turbo: TPWK what to do?
 
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I don't see any good reason to bet river. Check/call seems most reasonable. Anyone care to explain. What is he paying you with.

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He'll find something, like KJ or QJ maybe. Also, a river bet is sort of a blocker in that I'm not comfortable c/calling like 450 here whereas I think a 150 river lead rarely gets bluffraised.

Hercules 04-11-2007 06:53 PM

Re: $27turbo: TPWK what to do?
 
Vbet river 200ish. I don`t think to much of hands that will pay me off.
Usually your opponents find amazing ways to put you on something their 22 can beat etc...

morny 04-11-2007 06:57 PM

Re: $27turbo: TPWK what to do?
 
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I don't see any good reason to bet river. Check/call seems most reasonable. Anyone care to explain. What is he paying you with.

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He limped so he probably dosent have AT+, hes flop bet smells of continuation or else hitting middle or bottom pair or possibly Ace weak kicker too because he checked the turn.

He could have Qx,5x,9x,Kx small PP and we can be fairly sure he hasnt got AT+ because he limped and checked the turn, he knows you shown no stregth preflop so even if he limped with AT im sure hed bet that turn. Hed also bet with A9 on the turn. So that means we beat A2-A6 excluding A5 which hes also betting on that turn. So the only hand we have to be worried about is A8. Unlikely to have hit 2 pair on turn so your ahead alot more than your behind here

If you dont agree then what Hand do you think that is ahead of you here that the villain wouldnt bet with on that turn?


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