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Hklm8383 04-09-2007 04:28 PM

5-7 suited pair + FD
 
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PokerStars Game #9336454834: Holdem Pot Limit ($1/$2) - - Table Shaula IV 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: elise66 ($404.20 in chips)
Seat 2: Aqueous1234 ($98 in chips)
Seat 3: vegasstar44 ($282.15 in chips)
Seat 4: scorpionfish ($203.80 in chips)
Seat 5: DocBon ($177.60 in chips)
Seat 6: Jordi ($410.25 in chips)
Seat 7: CharityCse ($201.40 in chips)
Seat 8: Hero ($294.70 in chips)
Seat 9: MikeMcD ($194.10 in chips)
Aqueous1234: posts small blind $1
vegasstar44: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [5d 7d]
scorpionfish: folds
DocBon: folds
Jordi: folds
CharityCse: folds
Hero : raises $5 to $7
MikeMcD: folds
elise66: folds
Aqueous1234: calls $6
vegasstar44: calls $5
*** FLOP *** [9d 7h 2d]
Aqueous1234: checks
vegasstar44: checks
Hero : bets $16
Aqueous1234: raises $30 to $46
vegasstar44: folds
Hero : ?? is that a shove or a fold ? no read on villain

bottomset 04-09-2007 06:28 PM

Re: 5-7 suited pair + FD
 
I'd shove

Albert Moulton 04-09-2007 10:54 PM

Re: 5-7 suited pair + FD
 
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I'd shove

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I think being the preflop raiser, a push here is representing an overpair or overcards+FD. I think the c/r from EP is probably a set or an overpair lower than queens.

So why is shoving better than calling $16 and seeing what the turn brings? I guess it depends on the hand ranget you think he has. What hand range do you put him on for the c/r?

futuredoc85 04-09-2007 11:32 PM

Re: 5-7 suited pair + FD
 
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I'd shove

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I think being the preflop raiser, a push here is representing an overpair or overcards+FD. I think the c/r from EP is probably a set or an overpair lower than queens.

So why is shoving better than calling $16 and seeing what the turn brings? I guess it depends on the hand ranget you think he has. What hand range do you put him on for the c/r?

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its definitely closer as the pfr vs a pf faltcaller, but the hands we have the best equity against (overpais <QQ) will shut down to a lot of our outs, so i think shoving is OK. calling is fine too though i think this spot is razor thin. I probably shove too for image purposes since i think the diff in EV is minimal readless.


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