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mondonman 04-05-2007 07:30 AM

PP $22s - got c/rŽed on river WHAT?
 
Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t50/t100
7 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t3250
UTG+1: t1520
MP1: t8430
CO: t1780
Button: t550
SB: t1930
Hero: t2540

Pre-flop: (7 players) Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
5 folds, SB calls t50 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t150)</font>, Hero checks.

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (t200, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (t200, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets t100</font>, SB calls t100 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t300)</font>.

River: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (t400, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets t100</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to t400</font>, Hero is genuinely surprised

Villain is fairly new to me, but seems tighter than most other opponents pf. Never seen him play postflop.

I donkbet on the river to make him call with his pair of 5s (or even 3s). I ruled out him having an A because he checked the turn.
Does he think I have a missed FD and is trying to pick me off? Would he really check the river in that case?

I donŽt think I can call here. Opinions?

ManChild 04-05-2007 07:33 AM

Re: PP $22s - got c/rŽed on river WHAT?
 
id often raise this up PF

as played
i think id muck to that raise, although his line is really weird

Finnisher 04-05-2007 08:26 AM

Re: PP $22s - got c/rŽed on river WHAT?
 
I'd be too interested to see his hand to fold. This could be just about anything, I guess calling is good getting 3:1.

DeathbySuckout 04-05-2007 08:27 AM

Re: PP $22s - got c/rŽed on river WHAT?
 
What kind of hand are you putting him on? You said you can't put him on an Ax, can you put him on a Kx (with x&lt;Q)? How about 3x or 5x? Or like you said, maybe he put you on a missed draw. Your river bet looks like a cheap stab at the pot, so maybe he's trying to steal it from you? If you still really feel like he doesn't have Ax, I think you can call this.
Maybe I'm being weak, but I think I would've checked behind on the river after the turn call.

ger664 04-05-2007 08:40 AM

Re: PP $22s - got c/rŽed on river WHAT?
 
I am not happy here as this line looks like we are beat. I will call here given that
(a) getting resonably odds for the times he is try to steal the pot
(b) we will tangle in a few more BVB before game end and this will be invaluable in getting an insight into his play.

I am not checking behind the river, it losses you value against hands that will call that we are ahead like lone 5's and weaker K's.

Given your read was that he was tighter then normal PF a raise would have been good here and you have position after the flop if called.

Pondy 04-05-2007 09:04 AM

Re: PP $22s - got c/rŽed on river WHAT?
 
Raise PF.

Think you have to call here. Personally I think villian either slow played an Ax or has hit his King on the river.
A raise PF, then a raise on the flop would have given you more info.

paddytokey 04-05-2007 09:08 AM

Re: PP $22s - got c/rŽed on river WHAT?
 
Exactly.Raise preflop especially because you think he is tight .see what he does after your conti-bet and you wont have to find yourself in a position like this.
As played i call the river(even though i think villian has you beat).


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