Raise or call this river? (2knl)
 

I got impression that villain here is pretty bad from previous hands. He seems to be very passive and likes to call alot. Hard for me to put him on a set here so would like some advice on correct river line. FWIW, we dont have any history.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $20 BB (6 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Button ($457)
SB ($1293.50)
Hero ($2302.50)
UTG ($1970)
MP ($838)
CO ($5807.50)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $40</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls $30, Hero calls $20.

Flop: ($120) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, MP checks.

Turn: ($120) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $100</font>, MP folds, SB calls $100.

River: ($320) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $200</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $X </font>or calls?

Re: Is this really bad or just
 

650

Re: Is this really bad or just
 

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650

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this seems about right, I never just call here vs this villain

Re: Raise or call this river? (2knl)
 

ez raise, 600ish

Re: Raise or call this river? (2knl)
 

yeah in hindsight its an easy raise. I dont really know much about opponent though and he seemed bad but I really didnt know at time. I agree a raise to $600-650 is way better then what I did (shove..lol..bad). <font color="white">FWIW, he instacalled me with TT</font>

Re: Raise or call this river? (2knl)
 

a better question is: do we raise the river next time vs this villan?

Re: Raise or call this river? (2knl)
 

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a better question is: do we raise the river next time vs this villan?

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I dont see how this is a better question. Villain is described as bad theres unquestionable value in raising this situation, and more like it in the future.

Re: Raise or call this river? (2knl)
 

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a better question is: do we raise the river next time vs this villan?

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ummm... yes?

Re: Raise or call this river? (2knl)
 

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a better question is: do we raise the river next time vs this villan?

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duh

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Re: Raise or call this river? (2knl)
 

i think you'll see a lower 8 almost always, our kicker plays so ship the monies. ~600 seems good to me.