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miketurner 03-30-2007 04:57 PM

The fish need validation.
 
I was playing in a $10.00, 27 player S&G the other day. The blinds were somewhere around 50/100. BB checked/raised all in on a flush draw w 86s in his hand. The button called with AK, no pair, no draw. Both players were medium stacks. The BB hit his flush and busted the other guy. Then he typed “nice call idiot.”

Well, I always have to sharkscope a trash talker, especially one who ch/ra all in on a weak draw. It was no surprise that he was down $1064 in 500ish games. Now, of coarse he was right about the guy calling (it was a huge overbet)... but that is kinda irrelevant, in my opinion.

I should have stayed out of it, but I couldn’t help but to quote his stats and tell him that he should wait to become a winning player before he calls a player names. Another player (one who is up $3000ish) joined me.

The losing player told us that those stats mean nothing because all the pros say that they were losing players before they hit their first “big win” to establish a bankroll.

Now, I don’t know if that is true or not... but what a smart thing to say! I suppose it is VERY +EV to tell the fish that they are just one win away from becoming a pro like them. By validating the suckers denial, you keep them coming back for more. Thank you, pros of the game, for keeping those deposits coming! I learned something that day, & it will now become an important part of my game... validating the fish.

DeuceSeven 03-31-2007 02:02 AM

Re: The fish need validation.
 
The BB was actually correct. Dude with AK was lucky to only be a 55% dog. Most of the time trash talkers are the one's who suck.

PJo336 03-31-2007 02:47 PM

Re: The fish need validation.
 
Haha i trash talk after making a bad play to be ironic...most people dont get it

SuperPokerJedi 03-31-2007 10:23 PM

Re: The fish need validation.
 
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Haha i trash talk after making a bad play to be ironic...most people dont get it

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nice work! [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

killphilNI 04-01-2007 12:20 AM

Re: The fish need validation.
 
You're both idiots for calling out a losing player's SS stats at the table DUCY?

miketurner 04-01-2007 07:38 AM

Re: The fish need validation.
 
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You're both idiots for calling out a losing player's SS stats at the table DUCY?

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Yes. 4 idiots in that story. But at least I learned something, and I’m sure someone else can learn what I did from the story. Maybe not you, but someone.

In fact, that is pretty much the moral of the story. For someone as smart as you, your reading comprehension skills are kinda lacking.

omaha 04-02-2007 07:36 AM

Re: The fish need validation.
 
I was in a 4 player hu game. Mine took forever, then the winner of the other (who was a relative of the guy i beat) kept telling me how bad my play was.

I checked him up on sharkscope, and he had played about 100, lost 35% or so.

Strangely enough, he seemed to shut up after i told him that his symbol was a bowl of h20 with a goldfish jumping out of it!

But, then again, perhaps i am the idiot for mentioning it too him!

johnnyrocket 04-02-2007 01:47 PM

Re: The fish need validation.
 
yea lots of pros have said this, i think it is their attempt to lure more noobs into the game and its a great idea. key to story is never tell a player he is bad, just say great hand, idk why everyone keeps trying to teach donks how to play better.

PJo336 04-02-2007 04:09 PM

Re: The fish need validation.
 
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idk why everyone keeps trying to teach donks how to play better.

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Thank you. Full agreement, let em be fish

jrp_909 04-02-2007 04:29 PM

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idk why everyone keeps trying to teach donks how to play better.

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Thank you. Full agreement, let em be fish

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