I get 3-bet w/QQ: 4/180
 

1st orbit of a 4/180. No reads on either blind yet. I'd like to present this one in stages.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) internettexasholdem.com

UTG+1 (t1440)
MP1 (t1400)
MP2 (t2020)
MP3 (t1685)
CO (t1510)
Hero (t1470)
SB (t1330)
BB (t1740)
UTG (t2405)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls t20, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP3 calls t20, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t120</font>, SB calls t110, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to t300</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP3 folds, Hero...

Edit for 1 read. Over 7 hands, BB had not yet raised and had played 1 hand. I did look at that before I decided what to do. Not sure that it changes anything.

Re: I get 3-bet w/QQ: 4/180
 

The nit shoves ...

Re: I get 3-bet w/QQ: 4/180
 

R/R could be JJ/TT trying to isolate or AA/KK. Then again, this is the 1st orbit of a 4/180 so AK,AQ,AJ,88,99 and complete junk can also be accounted for. We're in good shape against all but 2 hands, and flipping on one other. Since it is so early in the 4.40, I'm good with the push. If he's got it, reload.

Re: I get 3-bet w/QQ: 4/180
 

This is an easy push in a $4/180 , Standard Villian in these is 88+ A10s+.

Re: I get 3-bet w/QQ: 4/180
 

Because Hero has been 3-bet twice already today with high pairs and has ran into AA and KK and because Hero looks to take notice that he is in position he just calls.

Hero puts BB on range of JJ+,AQs+,AKo+ (too tight?).

SB calls.

Flop is J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

SB checks. BB bets t700. Hero...

Re: I get 3-bet w/QQ: 4/180
 

So the only J you put him on is now a set ...

Shoves again!!!

Now Poker Stove says you are behind that range ... so you have a fold but I think you may be tight in your estimation. But you do have a read ...

Without a read I shove ... your read says fold

Re: I get 3-bet w/QQ: 4/180
 

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1st orbit of a 4/180.


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Shove preflop, as played shove flop.

Re: I get 3-bet w/QQ: 4/180
 

I understand there are alot of players in the 4/180 that will not 3-bet with less than (JJ+ AK) but, I think this is way to tight for standard no reads. Like I said 99+ A10s+ There are way more players that overplay there hands than people that trap you.

I really hate the call here because I could see that SB was coming along for the ride with his CC of your first raise. This complicates things more, and reduces your equity in the hand. And as what happen villian will bet flop 100% of the time here and leave you guessing.

let me think about the flop.

Re: I get 3-bet w/QQ: 4/180
 

Preflop this is an easy push. As said before me, his reraise can easily be 99+ A10s+ AJo+, maybe even wider this early in a 4/180. Everyone here I'm sure has seen the crazy stuff people reraise with in these. AJ can easily be making this play preflop and on the flop, or a pocket pair other then JJ that want's to take this down now. Do you think this guy is going to play a set this fast? As far as what I would do, this early in a 4/180, I'm probably pushing cause I have a hard time believing someone in a 4/180 is going to know to play sets like this. I think most people probably c/r, c/c this flop with a set.

Re: I get 3-bet w/QQ: 4/180
 

dude get allin preflop, sure you sometimes run into AA/KK but he will have ATo or 33 way too often to not push